Ran across this on Yahoo.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/09/chicagos-violent-gangs-looting-freight-cars-filled-with-guns.html
You think something could be put (welded) to the car floor, close to each end of the containers so when the seal is cut, it doesn't allow them to open the container door? Or I guess these losses are minimal in the grand scheme of things its just written off as "shrinkage"?
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Time for the Class 1s to work toward rerouting trains around Chicago ? Who pays for all these losses ?
I think we discussed this here not long ago. The actual theft occurred a couple of years ago, as I recall, and the guns might have simply been a lucky hit.
Some of the guns have turned up at crime scenes.
Who pays for the losses? Ultimately, you do, through increased product costs, increased insurance prices, etc. It all gets passed down...
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Illinois is becomming a failed state..... I just don't want to see Federal Money used to rescue them from the self-imposed mess they voted themselves into.
CMStPnP Illinois is becomming a failed state..... I just don't want to see Federal Money used to rescue them from the self-imposed mess they voted themselves into.
As usual, you haven't a clue, nor can you spell. But I suppose a failed sandwich shop operator knows about failure.
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The last post on the previous discussion of this topic was written five days ago.As for the welded bar, it wouldn't help. No doubt the robbers are going for the higher containers on a double-stacked pair...the ends of the well themselves are usually enough to keep the lower containers' doors from being opened.
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Schlimm, Was that an attempt at humor or another far left shot just because he doesn't agree with you. How much would it cost to have you actually say something nice about someone.
Now you can attack me instead. I really do enjoy all your BS, it reinforces my polar opposite opinions.
Let the blood bath begin, you'll feel better, it's ok I have broad shoulders and can't spell.
+1 Governance in a democracy is very different than being the owner of your own company, where you can simply issue edicts to be obeyed. Democratic governance requires consensus building and a willingness to compromise, something Rauner does not undestand or do.
Just a couple of observations, form someone who spent his working life on the rubber-tired side of this issue.
Thefts from Transportation generally come from two areas:
#1 A random act of 'opportunity' by an individual(s?) who are observing the 'passing parade', and select their 'target'. [a Hit or Miss/play on percentages].
#2 A targeted 'Hit'; based on inside information, from any source, in the chain between the origin and destination of the goods. Could also be targeted by simply,knowing 'what' is being shipped or received at a specific location. [The 'play' is that the odds favor the thief.
A.) Thieves target a truck load of merchandise siting in a 'truck stop' among lots of other loads (followed the truck from a shipper? Driver participation? or listed to conversation on CB,re: destination or possibly,looking for help in unloading?). **Cigaretttes,Whiskey,Guns,Expensive clothing, were big hits for thieves.
B.) 'Someone' inside of the supply chain targets the merchandise for theft:
(Has access to information/descriptions on BOL's).
Can give information on driver's habits(route,stops,etc). OR routing, and potential areas where the load might be 'paused'[availble to be targeted/accessed?] while in transit?
Security, and the measures available while the goods are in motion; depend on many,many variables for their effectiveness in thwarting theft from commercial transport. Unfortunately, it generally, comes down to the 'Cost-Benefit Metrics', in the end.
samfp1943samfp1943 wrote the following post 20 minutes ago: Just a couple of observations, form someone who spent his working life on the rubber-tired side of this issue. Thefts from Transportation generally come from two areas:
Way back in the day, I was a manager and later buyer for a large department store chain. "Shrinkage" (difference between the books and actual inventory) came from three sources:
1. Internal (employee) theft.
2. Shoplifting.
3. Clerical errors.
Errors (usually in accounting) and employee theft were the biggest problem.
schlimmwhere you can simply issue edicts to be obeyed.
Which of course is the 1950's business model of running a company.
BOB WITHORNNow you can attack me instead. I really do enjoy all your BS
It doesn't bother me a bit. I am perfectly happy with the choices I made in life. No regrets here. As for the spelling, I am writing to a magazine opinion forum. Obviously my spelling is not an issue given the number of views I get on my posts.
MarknLisaBack in the mid to late 90's I worked at the JB Hunt Chicago terminal. It wasn't uncommon for feral neighborhood children to break seals and steal freight from trucks cued up to get into the Conrail 47th St & Englewood ramps. Drivers had to stay in their trucks and let it happen as we didn't want them to get shot. They'd report it to the Conrail police when they got to the gate. I don't recall this being a problem at other ramps in the city.
My drivers call the southside of Chicago Chiraq and we have several Iraq war vets who felt safer in Downtown Tikrit during the surge than they do anywhere in Chicago today. I am talking about front line troops that were in daily combat or ran supply convoys into and out of that area that hate a major city in the USA. We have gone so far as to have a bar lock installed 1/3rd of the way up on our trailer doors to try and slow cargo theft down around Chicago.
Still it is next to impossible to stop it we tell our drivers if someone pulls a weapon on you give them the truck your life is worth more to us than the truck. We can shutdown remotely any truck that one of our drivers reports stolen or hits the panic button on in less than 20 seconds and it also locks the transmission in gear preventing the truck from being towed out of the way to steal the trailer.
As for the CPD and the Railroad Police up in Chicago well CPD is about worthless anymore the Railroad SA's do an excellent job with what they have to work with. If the city gave 2 craps about stopping crime in Chicago maybe it would be a better city. As for someone saying Ruaner has been pushinf for one thing only. He has been in office just over 2 years. How long has IL been in trouble a lot longer than that I can say over 2 decades for sure myself. Who has been in power for all that time in the State Legislature and treats his power as his precious like Semgal from the Lord of the Rings trilogy. The mans Name is Mike Madigan read up on him sometimes if you want power mad. Nothing gets done in Springfield budget or otherwise without his say so peroid. Just a heads up on IL politics on why we are broken failed State. Compromise takes 2 sides willing to bend and Both sides have to be willing to do so. When one side looks at the other and laughs it is hard to want to compromise at all that is the situation our governor is faced with.
Shadow the Cats ownerCompromise takes 2 sides willing to bend and Both sides have to be willing to do so. When one side looks at the other and laughs it is hard to want to compromise at all that is the situation our governor is faced with.
Politics in more than Illinois follow this broken pattern. It is endemic in why the country is in the mess it is in. Going through ALL LEVELS of ALL GOVERNMENTS.
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schlimm +1 Governance in a democracy is very different than being the owner of your own company, where you can simply issue edicts to be obeyed. Democratic governance requires consensus building and a willingness to compromise, something Rauner does not undestand or do.
Unless you have conditions like we have in Iowa currently. One party controls the Governor's office and both houses of the state congress. Everything that's passed so far is mostly the party in power's long-time wish list. That is, legislation that would never pass when one house was controlled by one party, the other house by the other party.
At least there is no grid-lock.
Jeff
jeffhergert schlimm +1 Governance in a democracy is very different than being the owner of your own company, where you can simply issue edicts to be obeyed. Democratic governance requires consensus building and a willingness to compromise, something Rauner does not undestand or do. Unless you have conditions like we have in Iowa currently. One party controls the Governor's office and both houses of the state congress. Everything that's passed so far is mostly the party in power's long-time wish list. That is, legislation that would never pass when one house was controlled by one party, the other house by the other party. At least there is no grid-lock. Jeff
and by now all election districts have been gerrymandered so as to insure that what is in power now will remain in power in the future.
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