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Chatterbox Winter 2016-2017

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Chatterbox Winter 2016-2017
Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, December 19, 2016 5:10 PM

Evening

Mother nature has decided to send winter early so.....

Matt was on time today even as some schools were closed due to cold weather.Someone took a whack at one of our signs for our buildings uptown.Ns was clear when I left work.People enjoyed the cookies that Stacey sent with me to work.Time to do some chores.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, December 19, 2016 7:57 PM

Joe - can we move spring up a couple of months?

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, December 19, 2016 8:05 PM

We could just call this the "longing for spring" edition of the Chatterbox.  If there are "climate deniers" out there, why can't we have "winter deniers" in here?

Sad to hear of the passing of Ron Ziel.  I bought his first book, The Twilight of Steam Locomotives, the year it was published (1963).  Somehow, my dad procured an autograph on his second book, Steam in the Sixtieswhich is also in my collection (he was the neighbor of an acquaintance of my parents).  The inscription had my name spelled with a very crooked "C", so I could add a line to it in case my name was spelled with a "K".  Nice touch!

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 8:59 AM

Maybe a tiny bit warmer - if the sun ever comes out of hiding.  Not too optimistic right now.

I see we are still making kindling out of our living quarters.  Another fire last nite - always around 1a - really testing the ability and stamina of the firefighters & police.  Obviously a lot of "turkeys" running around who either don't care or don't think.  They make real turkeys look brilliant...

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 10:05 AM

Looking at the national low temperature maps this week suggests that "Chatterbox" is very descriptive for a lot of the country, more so in a couple of days.

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:29 PM

Survived my last "Polar" obligation for the season last night. Funny things happen with kids and parents at zero and below.

Talk of the museum volunteers last night was about an Australian family on the Polar train last night. Must have been quite some planning involved on that trip. They handled the cold better than many of the locals as well.

DRGW 491's crew has been running in circles so often they've got to be getting dizzy by now.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 1:54 PM

We're supposed to be coming out of the deep freeze today--but it's so windy that we didn't notice it (we're all the way up to the 20s now; maybe a temperature above freezing for tomorrow).

I was cast in cardboard this morning (or at least my legs were).  This is now a mold which will be placed on the table every time I get a radiation treatment, so they have me in the right place.  Radiation treatments start on January 4 and end on February 23...in that time I go in 37 times (only the weekends are off days).  It will probably make me progressively more tired.

I hope to get enough done around the house (and on my files) today to allow me to go out and see a train or two tomorrow.  My notepad for December has only three pages occupied...definitely not the good old days, when I could do that much in a day or less.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 5:20 PM

evening

Ns had a westbound stack train pass one in the siding when I got off work tonight.Sent out a bunch of we need it right now packages today.Guessers say maybe 60 and rain by Monday??? Better find the boat.Matt is finishing up his project for school.Need to put stuff in the dryer.

stay safe

joe

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 9:22 PM

Cold here warm there.  Did anyone notice the Russian diplomat return to Moscow was to no snow and apparetly fairly warm ?  Lets send the Polar vortex back to  " Russia with Love "

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Posted by Uncle Jake on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:11 AM
Time for this lurker's Ceasonal Chatterbox Check-in. It was below zero here (including wind chill) two days ago, last night we got 1/2" of freezing rain that made for a fun drive to work this morning. I saw no cases of vehicular hockey-slide, which is good. Then the wind came up and brought the mercury with it, topping off around 50 degrees. Supposed to cool off again though, and we still have snow on the ground.
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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 7:05 AM

Uncle Jake
Time for this lurker's Ceasonal Chatterbox Check-in. It was below zero here

In case you don't want the information out in public, I was wondering where "here" is - did some research and figure you are out "there".  I am working on improving my geography - ergo, the interest.  

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:54 AM

Uncle Jake
Time for this lurker's Ceasonal Chatterbox Check-in. It was below zero here (including wind chill) two days ago, last night we got 1/2" of freezing rain that made for a fun drive to work this morning. I saw no cases of vehicular hockey-slide, which is good. Then the wind came up and brought the mercury with it, topping off around 50 degrees. Supposed to cool off again though, and we still have snow on the ground.
 

With all that going on I have to wonder if your wetherman hates you.

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Posted by mudchicken on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:49 PM

We've already had our annual find the Texans and Californians in the ditch season.

All the newly minted drivers will be trouble all season until they turn JoeKoh's 'ditchfinders" off...One of those in a Subaru did a hockey shot off the boards and under a J R England semi trailer this morning on I-25 in the Evans Avenue trench. Nothing moved for hours. 

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:19 PM

mudchicken
Survived my last "Polar" obligation for the season last night. Funny things happen with kids and parents at zero and below.

Heck, cold is no big deal for the passengers (unless the cars are cold).  Locomotives and the water systems on our mid-50's vintage cars are less tolerant.  Ended up borrowing a locomotive as one of our had a coolant pipe freeze and leak.

The trips themselves went very well for the last few days.  We'd added two nights, Monday and Tuesday.  Last Friday the weather was exceptionally bad (I'm told - I was home) and about half the passengers couldn't make it.  They made up 1/4 of those riding on the last two days.  The other 3/4 were folks who hadn't been able to get in due to numerous ticket sell outs.

This morning, we tore down the "North Pole."  Farewell until next year...  Everyone is breathing a sigh of relief.

I'm pooped.  Still need to clean/sort the truck - it's full of railroad stuff, Polar Express stuff, and Christmas presents.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:38 PM

afternoon

snowmelt here in Nw Ohio.Ns had the local and a westbound oil train waiting as a stack train went west as I left work.Went into Defiance for an errand and saw the ND&W shortline going into town as well.Have chores to do here at home.Tomorrow another niece joins the 30 club(or the 29 again club).These dang kids just keep getting older.Matt brought home his class ring from school.Graduation will be around the corner.Better get at the chores.

stay safe

joe

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, December 22, 2016 2:26 PM

afternoon

more snowmelt here in Nw Ohio.Matt is on Christmas break.We have 1 more day of work.Matt is going to G+G house and decorate cookies with cousins.Chores to do here at home.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by Uncle Jake on Thursday, December 22, 2016 2:31 PM
'Here' for me is the Columbia Basin region of Washington State.
Thankfully the weather here has moderated to normal. Off work until Tuesday.
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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, December 22, 2016 4:24 PM

mudchicken

We've already had our annual find the Texans and Californians in the ditch season.

All the newly minted drivers will be trouble all season until they turn JoeKoh's 'ditchfinders" off...One of those in a Subaru did a hockey shot off the boards and under a J R England semi trailer this morning on I-25 in the Evans Avenue trench. Nothing moved for hours. 

 

They can't drive in rain, much less snow and ice!

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:27 PM

mudchicken
We've already had our annual find the Texans and Californians in the ditch season.

I recall the I-25 median areas between Trinidad and Pueblo being quite wide, which served two purposes: (1) catch the errant morons who get themselves into trouble before they make it to the opposite direction lanes and (2) catch the snow cascading off the blades of the Colorado roads trucks traveling 65 MPH in the fast lane during the snowstorm.  (That is unlike our Caltrans policy of sitting in the yard until the snow stops and then getting out to clear the roads.  Priorities, I guess.)

With respect to (2) the arc of snow coming off the blade is impressive to witness.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, December 22, 2016 9:47 PM

ChuckCobleigh
Colorado roads trucks traveling 65 MPH in the fast lane during the snowstorm.

Can we send our DOT plow drivers out there to learn how to do that?  Around here, they prefer to plow the Interstates at 35 MPH, and have now adopted tow plows and echelon plowing, which really ties traffic up.

Our folks (at all levels - villages, towns, counties, cities, state) plow while it's snowing.  If you've got a two or three day snow event going on, you can't wait till it's over...

However, you can always tell when school is cancelled or delayed.  No early morning wake-up call of a plow rumbling by.  They deny that, but the facts speak for themselves...

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, December 22, 2016 10:49 PM

In Central Maryland (at least Baltimore, Carroll & Howard counties) the drill has become for the counties to pretreat the major highways with a brine solution.  The solution dries very shortly after application and it can be seen as multiple lines following the highway.  Plows and Salt trucks will normally be out during the storm.

Baltimore City may not follow this pattern as the fuel tanker losing control account wrecked cars ahead and going over the Jersey Wall barrier and exploding upon contact with the CSX trackage under the overpass this happened on.  The truck driver and one other person were killed as there were a total of 67 vehicles involved in the accident scene. 

My supposition is that that area of highway was not salted with freezing rain falling at the time of the incident - I do not possess any information that confirms my supposition.  I don't drive in Baltimore City and do not know the specifics of their foul weather plans.

Note - Baltimore County and Baltimore City are separate political entities.

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/12/23/driver-of-tanker-that-crashed-on-icy-i-95-identified-by-mdta/

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Posted by Norm48327 on Friday, December 23, 2016 5:35 AM

Our airport used to have high speed snow plows. It was neat to see them plowing at 50 MPH and the snowstorm they created. Sadly, I can't give our road commission any kudos.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, December 23, 2016 8:06 AM

We have very good local plow service this year.  Of course, we've never suffered, because our house is across the street from a achool, and the buses need to travel.  Although it's fairly lvel right by our house, there are hills on adjacent streets that would get pretty bad if left untreated.

I've been seeing that pretreating around here, too.  Not sure it has any real effect, but if the roads are passable it isn't hurting.  I don't need to be a participant in any comparison studies.

In Grand Haven, the plows operate in groups of three:  first one uses only the scraper under the dump body, second uses the front plow and a scraper, and the third goes right up to the curb and really throws it off the right-of-way.  

Today will have precipitation coming in later in the morning...it's supposed to be snow, but temperatures will be near or above freezing, so it shouldn't last (and it's supposed to be less than an inch, anyway).  We're going to be out of here by then, headed north, to the Land of No Trains.  

Of course, just about everywhere we go this weekend will be the Land of No Trains--even my usual haunts in northwestern Indiana.  I'll try the roads along the tracks today, just in case, but coming home will be Interstate almost all the way.

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, December 23, 2016 11:29 AM

Probably too late this year, but methinks Santa is gonna send me a trainload of coal next year. Was helping Brand X surveyor down near CopCar's new adopted backyard and uncovered a major screw-up. (wonder if one federal agency can fine another and CDOT as well?)

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, December 23, 2016 1:41 PM

MC, if it was not your miscalculation or whatever, why would Kris Kringle want to put even one lump in your stocking?

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, December 23, 2016 2:36 PM

afternoon

more snowmelt here.Work is done(until next year!!!). Mrs.Neighbor next door is off to retirement.We have a card for her.Ns had a westbound when I got off work.Tomorrow going to get brother and see what CSX can run before they shut down for the holiday.Christmas day it's off to G+G's house.Have a Merry Christmas everyone.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, December 23, 2016 3:25 PM

Just found out one of our Polar Express Santas had a fire at his house this morning.  It appears they lost everything.  Old balloon construction house, fire may have started in the basement and found its way all the way to the attic via the walls.

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Posted by Mookie on Friday, December 23, 2016 4:05 PM

Deggesty

MC, if it was not your miscalculation or whatever, why would Kris Kringle want to put even one lump in your stocking?

 

Because Santa owes Mookie, big time!  And the $$$ from the sale of that amount of coal will help pay for a trip to Lincoln!  

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, December 23, 2016 7:31 PM

tree68

Just found out one of our Polar Express Santas had a fire at his house this morning.  It appears they lost everything.  Old balloon construction house, fire may have started in the basement and found its way all the way to the attic via the walls.

 

Thats horrible...any plans on how to help?

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, December 23, 2016 8:08 PM

edblysard
Thats horrible...any plans on how to help?

They had insurance, and there was mention on FB of a gofundme account.  Locally, they're taking donations at the main fire station.

http://www.uticaod.com/photogallery/NY/20161223/NEWS/122309996/PH/1

http://www.cnyhomepage.com/news/fire-ruins-multi-family-home/630913284

http://www.wktv.com/story/34124897/donations-needed-for-families-displaced-by-utica-fire

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