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Will seas rise enough to affect ports and intermodal? DOD and CSX planning for the future

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Will seas rise enough to affect ports and intermodal? DOD and CSX planning for the future
Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Monday, December 19, 2016 12:31 PM

i hear anything from a couple of centimeters to a couple of feet...How will this affect ports like Norfolk VA aka Hamton Roads or the Port of NY/NJ. I beleive that global warming if true would help inland ports like Montreal and the Great Lakes. Its sad to see that Chicago Ship Traffic is a fraction of what it used to be maybe it will come back. BTW CSX moved its dispatch center inland to Selkirk NY from Jax FL. and NS has moved its dispatch center inland as well. Northern Ports like CN Prince Rupert in Canada could become big metro centers someday. see also-

http://www.defense.gov/News/Article/Article/612710

http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2016/06/republicans-trying-to-stop-pentagon-climate-plan-000149

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Posted by Brian Schmidt on Monday, December 19, 2016 4:28 PM

Can you cite a reliable source that CSX has closed its Jacksonville dispatching center?

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Posted by n012944 on Monday, December 19, 2016 4:49 PM

Brian Schmidt

Can you cite a reliable source that CSX has closed its Jacksonville dispatching center?

 

No, he will not be able to.

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, December 19, 2016 5:08 PM

CSX decentralized its Dispatching Center in Jacksonville in 2008.  Jacksonville Division disptaching is still done from the K C Dufford Dispatch Center in Jacksonville.  CSX Dispatching officers are in Jacksonville, Atlanta, Florence, Baltimore, Selkirk, Indianapolis, Nashville, Cincinnati and Chicago.

Climate change was not a factor in the decision.

Signed - a Dispatcher that retired TODAY with 51.5 years with CSX and its predecessors.

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Posted by Randy Stahl on Monday, December 19, 2016 5:11 PM

Sincerest best wishes and congrats on your retirement !!!!!

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Posted by NorthWest on Monday, December 19, 2016 5:15 PM

Congrats Balt on your retirement!

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Posted by Norm48327 on Monday, December 19, 2016 5:37 PM

Congratulations Balt. Thumbs Up

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, December 19, 2016 5:37 PM

BaltACD

Signed - a Dispatcher that retired TODAY with 51.5 years with CSX and its predecessors.

 

Congrats! I have about 15 more years left 'till retirement. Are you still doing the race car gig?

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Posted by edblysard on Monday, December 19, 2016 5:37 PM

BaltACD

CSX decentralized its Dispatching Center in Jacksonville in 2008.  Jacksonville Division disptaching is still done from the K C Dufford Dispatch Center in Jacksonville.  CSX Dispatching officers are in Jacksonville, Atlanta, Florence, Baltimore, Selkirk, Indianapolis, Nashville, Cincinnati and Chicago.

Climate change was not a factor in the decision.

Signed - a Dispatcher that retired TODAY with 51.5 years with CSX and its predecessors.

 

Good deal...hope you have something to keep busy with..I am going nuts.

 

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, December 19, 2016 5:38 PM

Brian Schmidt

Can you cite a reliable source that CSX has closed its Jacksonville dispatching center?

 

No, because he's just trolling like always. 

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, December 19, 2016 5:38 PM

edblysard

 

 
BaltACD

CSX decentralized its Dispatching Center in Jacksonville in 2008.  Jacksonville Division disptaching is still done from the K C Dufford Dispatch Center in Jacksonville.  CSX Dispatching officers are in Jacksonville, Atlanta, Florence, Baltimore, Selkirk, Indianapolis, Nashville, Cincinnati and Chicago.

Climate change was not a factor in the decision.

Signed - a Dispatcher that retired TODAY with 51.5 years with CSX and its predecessors.

 

 

 

Good deal...hope you have something to keep busy with..I am going nuts.

 

 

 

Aren't we all just going nuts?

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Posted by Ulrich on Monday, December 19, 2016 5:46 PM

Congrats on retiring..51.5 years.. that must have been quite the ride with so many changes along the way. 

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Monday, December 19, 2016 5:46 PM

   Congratulations, Balt.   And I'll second Ed's recomendation to stay busy.   I went nuts when I first retired.

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Posted by wanswheel on Monday, December 19, 2016 5:59 PM

BaltACD

51.5 years with

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, December 19, 2016 6:20 PM

B&O and it's successors

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Posted by edblysard on Monday, December 19, 2016 6:39 PM

CandOforprogress2

i hear anything from a couple of centimeters to a couple of feet...How will this affect ports like Norfolk VA aka Hamton Roads or the Port of NY/NJ. I beleive that global warming if true would help inland ports like Montreal and the Great Lakes. Its sad to see that Chicago Ship Traffic is a fraction of what it used to be maybe it will come back. BTW CSX moved its dispatch center inland to Selkirk NY from Jax FL. and NS has moved its dispatch center inland as well. Northern Ports like CN Prince Rupert in Canada could become big metro centers someday. see also-

http://www.defense.gov/News/Article/Article/612710

http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2016/06/republicans-trying-to-stop-pentagon-climate-plan-000149

 

My buddy Chicken Little said the sky was gonna fall soon.

Houston already has plans in place for this, we are going to invade San Antonio...or El Paso.

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, December 19, 2016 6:47 PM

CandOforprogress2
BTW CSX moved its dispatch center inland to Selkirk NY from Jax FL. and NS has moved its dispatch center inland as well. Northern Ports like CN Prince Rupert in Canada could become big metro centers someday. see also-

http://www.defense.gov/News/Article/Article/612710

http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2016/06/republicans-trying-to-stop-pentagon-climate-plan-000149

NS has never had a Centrailzed Dispatching Center.  Their Dispatching offices are located in a number of locations around their system.

When the split of ConRail occured, the former ConRail office at Mt. Laurel, NJ had the dispatchers for the territory CSX received moved to the Selkirk office.  Where the dispatchers for the territory that went to Shared Assets and/or NS went I don't know.

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, December 19, 2016 6:50 PM

Murphy Siding
edblysard
BaltACD

CSX decentralized its Dispatching Center in Jacksonville in 2008.  Jacksonville Division disptaching is still done from the K C Dufford Dispatch Center in Jacksonville.  CSX Dispatching officers are in Jacksonville, Atlanta, Florence, Baltimore, Selkirk, Indianapolis, Nashville, Cincinnati and Chicago.

Climate change was not a factor in the decision.

Signed - a Dispatcher that retired TODAY with 51.5 years with CSX and its predecessors.

Good deal...hope you have something to keep busy with..I am going nuts.

Are you retired too, or just going nuts?

Season starts in January 2017 at Homestead-Miamai Speedway.

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, December 19, 2016 7:58 PM

Congratulations, Balt! Keep busy--and don't forget us who have appreciated your posts for many years.

Be careful going down to Miami, especially if the weather continues to be bothersome.

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, December 19, 2016 8:18 PM

I leave the forum for just a little while and you go and retire!  That was very sneaky!

I do hope you will keep your finger on the pulse here, since I always have questions and need the nice people on here who always give me answers.  

Congrats and after the dust settles, you will really enjoy retirement!  Retirees make their own fun!  

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, December 19, 2016 8:22 PM

First of all, from another railroad retiree, congratulations, Balt!  Have a long, healthy, and happy retirement, free from worries.

As for the sea level rising, it might make unnecessary the dredging out of some harbors...  (And it may come sooner rather than later--from pictures seen recently, a large section of an ice shelf in Antarctica is about to break off from the mainland, producing an iceberg about the size of the state of Delaware!)

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, December 19, 2016 8:38 PM

How long before we see you going pro on the circuit?Stick out tongue

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Posted by edblysard on Monday, December 19, 2016 9:10 PM

Oh yeah, that looks real safe!Stick out tongue

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, December 19, 2016 9:19 PM

Murphy Siding
How long before we see you going pro on the circuit?Stick out tongue

No Pro.  Club racing - bragging rights and $10 trophies - and a whole lot of commradery.

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Posted by schlimm on Monday, December 19, 2016 9:38 PM

BaltACD
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Congrats!  51.5 years with one company is a rarity.  Best of luck with the transition.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Monday, December 19, 2016 11:31 PM

CShaveRR

As for the sea level rising, it might make unnecessary the dredging out of some harbors...  (And it may come sooner rather than later--from pictures seen recently, a large section of an ice shelf in Antarctica is about to break off from the mainland, producing an iceberg about the size of the state of Delaware!)

And if that shelf was floating, not sitting on dry land, the melting ice won't raise the general sea level a millimeter.

Maybe the water-starved Californians should send a fleet of tugboats down to drag it up to La-La Land before it has a chance to melt.

In order to make dredging unnecessary, sea level would have to rise on the order of twenty feet - and after a while the channel would still silt up.

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Posted by erikem on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 1:00 AM

Balt, Congrats from me as well!

As for the original qestion, the data I've seen is global sea levels rising by 6 to 12" per century. Local sea level rise also depends of the local rise and fall land due to various geologic (tectonic) forces - Mudchicken could give a much more knowledge description of those processes than I could.

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Posted by greyhounds on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 2:50 PM

BaltACD
Signed - a Dispatcher that retired TODAY with 51.5 years with CSX and its predecessors.

Good for you Balt!  Please let us know how it goes.

Me, I've got nine days until my own "R Date".

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Posted by schlimm on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 4:38 PM

greyhounds

 

 
BaltACD
Signed - a Dispatcher that retired TODAY with 51.5 years with CSX and its predecessors.

 

Good for you Balt!  Please let us know how it goes.

Me, I've got nine days until my own "R Date".

 

Ken: Between you and Balt, that is many years of wisdom.  Hard to replace.

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