Trains.com

Snakes On A Train, redux

2475 views
13 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    July 2009
  • From: San Francisco East Bay
  • 1,360 posts
Snakes On A Train, redux
Posted by MikeF90 on Monday, September 26, 2016 7:21 PM

I've read about snakes on trains, mainly pets on public transit (perhaps a local version of 'open carry'). Here in SoCal we get our share of them warming themselves on the rails, usually resulting in their demise.

Across the globe on the Shinkansen, an unexpected visitor was discovered:

http://www.usnews.com/news/offbeat/articles/2016-09-26/python-wrapped-around-armrest-halts-japanese-bullet-train

On some U.S. trains snakes might be useful for rodent patrol, but unfortunately too many folks have a pathological fear of them. Amtrak allows some kinds of pets now, but probably not 'free roaming'.

Anyone see them in other railroad settings?

  • Member since
    December 2001
  • From: Northern New York
  • 24,862 posts
Posted by tree68 on Monday, September 26, 2016 8:13 PM

MikeF90
Anyone see them in other railroad settings?

They like switch stands from time to time - I've encountered them there.  I know that most of them will skedaddle when you show up, but there are those folks who would consider the only cure for a garter snake as both barrels of a twelve gauge...

LarryWhistling
Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) 
Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you
My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date
Come ride the rails with me!
There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Central Iowa
  • 6,826 posts
Posted by jeffhergert on Monday, September 26, 2016 8:54 PM

Here I thought you were talking about switch engines. 

I wonder if anyone will recognize the reference?

Jeff

  • Member since
    October 2006
  • From: Allentown, PA
  • 9,810 posts
Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Monday, September 26, 2016 10:09 PM

Copperheads and rattlesnakes like to hide inside joint bars.  I've heard of welders getting serious bites on the inside of their legs after sitting on a rail to weld up a battered joint . . .

- Paul North. 

"This Fascinating Railroad Business" (title of 1943 book by Robert Selph Henry of the AAR)
  • Member since
    March 2013
  • 711 posts
Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Monday, September 26, 2016 11:23 PM

jeffhergert

Here I thought you were talking about switch engines. 

I wonder if anyone will recognize the reference?

Jeff

I recognize, and Switchmen are still sometimes called snakes today on CN.  Not sure where the name originated from though.

Greetings from Alberta

-an Articulate Malcontent

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Central Iowa
  • 6,826 posts
Posted by jeffhergert on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:07 PM

SD70M-2Dude
 
jeffhergert

Here I thought you were talking about switch engines. 

I wonder if anyone will recognize the reference?

Jeff

 

 

I recognize, and Switchmen are still sometimes called snakes today on CN.  Not sure where the name originated from though.

 

From the union that represented them, Switchmen's Union of North America.  Their emblem resembled a snake.  SUNA was one of the unions that merged to form the United Transportation Union in the late 1960s. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switchmen%27s_Union_of_North_America

Jeff

  • Member since
    February 2014
  • From: Nescopeck and Topton, Penna.
  • 81 posts
Posted by Eddie Sand on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:40 PM

Until its closure in 1965, Lehigh Valley operators had a problem with timber rattlers (Crotaulus Horridus) occasionally turning up in the basement of its interlocking tower at Penn Haven Junction, PA. This was a point where the LV's network of branches to and beyond Hazleton diverged from its main line, and crossed parallel Jersey Central in the process. At one time the village of Penn Haven actually had permanent residents, but was never served by a highway; the last of the locals moved on sometime in the Forties. But at any rate rattlers still are seen occasionally in the Lehigh Gorge, which has been developed into a state park. Apparently, the foundation of the tower cracked, and occasionally, one of the reptiles made its way from an unknown den to the basement -- probably drawn by heat from the furnace. After a couple of ops got an unpleasant surprise (no actual bites I've been told about), the LV installed a new heating system in the above-ground portion of the tower and left the basement to the venomous critters.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/pennsylvania/2134402-penn-haven-ghost-town-sorts.html

http://www.lvrr.com/wp-content/gallery/Towers%20and%20Interlocking/penn_haven_jct.JPG

19 and copy from 'NP' at Nescopeck, Penna.
  • Member since
    September 2010
  • 2,515 posts
Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:48 PM

Any one notice the efficiency of the Japanese in handling the removal of the snake. A ONE MINUTE stop, and the train was ON TIME at its destination. WOW.

  • Member since
    April 2002
  • From: Northern Florida
  • 1,429 posts
Posted by SALfan on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:00 PM

tree68

 

 
MikeF90
Anyone see them in other railroad settings?

 

They like switch stands from time to time - I've encountered them there.  I know that most of them will skedaddle when you show up, but there are those folks who would consider the only cure for a garter snake as both barrels of a twelve gauge...

 

When dealing with a snake, one can never have too much shotgun.

  • Member since
    July 2009
  • From: San Francisco East Bay
  • 1,360 posts
Posted by MikeF90 on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:40 PM

SALfan
When dealing with a snake, one can never have too much shotgun.

Why I'm not at all amused with RW talk radio 'humor'. Two digit IQ west Texas ranchers are exterminating 'vocal' rattlers and biasing the descendants toward quiet rattlers, to their livestocks peril. Duh.

Seriously, volunteer at your local humane society and learn the difference between endangered, beneficial snakes and invasive pythons.

Animal respector, OUT.

  • Member since
    December 2001
  • From: Northern New York
  • 24,862 posts
Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, September 28, 2016 6:25 AM

SALfan
When dealing with a snake, one can never have too much shotgun.

My comment was actually intended to be tongue in cheek, particularly after the reactions a friend got recently after posting a picture of a garter snake in their yard.   Garter snakes are actually beneficial - they help keep the number of little critters down in one's yard.

A driver recently went off the road after a spider dropped down from their rearview mirror...

 

LarryWhistling
Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) 
Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you
My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date
Come ride the rails with me!
There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...

  • Member since
    March 2016
  • From: Burbank IL (near Clearing)
  • 13,479 posts
Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, September 28, 2016 7:16 AM

tree68

A driver recently went off the road after a spider dropped down from their rearview mirror...

My younger adult son would probably laugh at that, he keeps a couple of tarantulas as pets.

The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
  • Member since
    April 2002
  • From: Northern Florida
  • 1,429 posts
Posted by SALfan on Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:18 PM

tree68

 

 
SALfan
When dealing with a snake, one can never have too much shotgun.

 

My comment was actually intended to be tongue in cheek, particularly after the reactions a friend got recently after posting a picture of a garter snake in their yard.   Garter snakes are actually beneficial - they help keep the number of little critters down in one's yard.

A driver recently went off the road after a spider dropped down from their rearview mirror...

 

 

So was mine, but MikeF90 wet his pants and went all tree-hugger on us.

  • Member since
    July 2009
  • From: San Francisco East Bay
  • 1,360 posts
Posted by MikeF90 on Thursday, September 29, 2016 4:29 PM

Sorry, but indiscriminate gun use is no joking matter to me.  Well, perhaps once in a while:

OTOH if you want to safely hunt invasive species like Burmese pythons and feral pigs, have at it!

Join our Community!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

Search the Community

Newsletter Sign-Up

By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy