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LNG on Rails
Posted by CMStPnP on Wednesday, September 21, 2016 1:30 PM

Quick question, I know there has been interest in the United States becomming a major LNG exporter.    If some coastal LNG Terminals were built, given the current pipeline situation in this country, would the rails again become the carriers of choice of this cargo from the NG fields to the LNG terminals at the ports?

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Posted by MidlandMike on Wednesday, September 21, 2016 6:52 PM

Natural gas has always been carried in pipelines.  They are still building pipelines as needed.  The only reasons not to build a pipeline is if the traffic is to small (not likely when you need to fill a LNG tanker), or not expected to be long lived (the latter being a possibility).  The transporter would have to supply his own cars, as the railroads probably have learned their lesson from the CBR bubble.

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Posted by mudchicken on Wednesday, September 21, 2016 7:39 PM

???

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Posted by dakotafred on Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:34 PM

MidlandMike

Natural gas has always been carried in pipelines.  They are still building pipelines as needed.  The only reasons not to build a pipeline is if the traffic is to small (not likely when you need to fill a LNG tanker), or not expected to be long lived (the latter being a possibility).  The transporter would have to supply his own cars, as the railroads probably have learned their lesson from the CBR bubble.

 

Wrong-o for once, Mike, sad to say. The same Indians who will soon be crying for other people to give them propane and other petroleum products for the winter have effectively halted, with the cooperation of the Obama administration, construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline up here for the winter.

Google DAP and read the sad story. This is about oil rather than natural gas. But look for the green obstructionists, thus emboldened, to pursue similar tactics Everywhere West. Possible good news for the railroads (temporarily) will be bad news for all the rest of us.   

 

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Posted by MidlandMike on Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:28 PM

dakotafred

 

 
MidlandMike

Natural gas has always been carried in pipelines.  They are still building pipelines as needed.  The only reasons not to build a pipeline is if the traffic is to small (not likely when you need to fill a LNG tanker), or not expected to be long lived (the latter being a possibility).  The transporter would have to supply his own cars, as the railroads probably have learned their lesson from the CBR bubble.

 

 

 

Wrong-o for once, Mike, sad to say. The same Indians who will soon be crying for other people to give them propane and other petroleum products for the winter have effectively halted, with the cooperation of the Obama administration, construction of the Dakota Access Pipeline up here for the winter.

Google DAP and read the sad story. This is about oil rather than natural gas. But look for the green obstructionists, thus emboldened, to pursue similar tactics Everywhere West. Possible good news for the railroads (temporarily) will be bad news for all the rest of us.   

 

 

I see there is an emergency temporary injunction for a 40 mile section of this 1100 mile pipeline.  I am not impressed.  These sort of setbacks happen all the time in large oil projects.  The project has been thru all the approval steps, and I don't think we will see any suprises that could ultimatly stop it.

In the linked article, you will see that there were also some rail projects that were challanged by western tribes:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/09/20/this-is-why-environmentalists-are-targeting-energy-pipelines-like-the-north-dakota-project/

Edit: The injunction claimed that the Army Corps didn't properly follow the law in approving the construction permit.  In granting the injunction, one of the judges indicated that "the Army Corps of Engineers did their jobs expertly and in accordance with the law,”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/court-halts-construction-of-another-section-of-pipeline/2016/09/17/be27ef60-7ce7-11e6-8064-c1ddc8a724bb_story.html

 

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