Okay I can Drink a beer on a MARC train but not on a MBTA Commuter Train?

[Anonymous]

Conducter in Boston busted me for a open container of Guiness why riding the Commuter train. But when I rode MARC in Maryland It was not unusual to see commuters down a 6 pack by the the time they rolled into Martinburg WV.
Dont know Chicagos rules. But why such a rules diffrence? You think with the Irish in Boston and all[}:)][:p]......

[CSXrules4eva]

That sounds very interesting. I don't know wuts up wit dat?// However, it seems a little strange to me. People on SEPTA and oviously Amtrak drink all the time. The train crew dosen't care really. Mabe, MBTA had bad experience w/ people drinking on the train, and band it completely. This seems like the only explanination I can give.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the Update on SEPTA,,So what the River Line? I hear NJ is preety anal over there in Camden

[techguy57]

Can't speak for MBTA but When I used to take the Metra between LaSalle St Station and Joliet used to drink a beer or two. Lots of Chicago Board of Trade types with beer in hand as well. Used to be able to buy them right before getting on the train. Pretty sure that it's no big deal on any of Metra's routes but I don't think the same rules apply on the EL trains.

Mike

[Anonymous]

I think you are looking at local or state law differences here. My guess is that some well meaning individual in Massachussetts doesn't want a bunch of drunks falling off the 5:15PM commuter from Boston and getting into their cars to go home. Maryland doesn't see that kind of a problem, so there's no law against it.

I think the same sort of battle came up about smoking on trains and planes, too.
Erik

[dharmon]

I don't think it's as much the drinking on the train as much as it is the drinking of MD 20/20 from the bottle in the brown paper sack that bothers them.

[Mookie]

And methinks you shouldn't be drinking anywhere or anytime. Causes brain cells to ....well, you probably already know.

Mook

[tree68]

Recall that there was a time that railroads (and airlines, for that matter) stopped serving at the state line, and didn't start again until they left (don't remember the state, but Kansas comes to mind).

Laws also vary on drinking/open container in public. In other words, if you were in the bar car, you could, but in a coach, forget it. There can also be restrictions re: Liquor License. You can drink in our FD social hall, as long as you by it from us. You can't bring your own from outside. State ABC Law.

[techguy57]

Mookie- [8D] No to worry, it only purges the dead or dying ones anyway, right? I think a Pre-med friend told me that...wait, maybe that was from watching Animal House...

Erik - I was always a good boy, I either walked home or called for a ride. Not that a beer over the 1 1/2 ride ever got me drunk. Can't same the same for everyone else, but it is Chicago, I think some of the drunk might drive better than some of the others out there.

Dan - MD20/20? [xx(] Ick! I think I'd rather drink Osco brand Vodka...

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68

Recall that there was a time that railroads (and airlines, for that matter) stopped serving at the state line, and didn't start again until they left (don't remember the state, but Kansas comes to mind).

Laws also vary on drinking/open container in public. In other words, if you were in the bar car, you could, but in a coach, forget it. There can also be restrictions re: Liquor License. You can drink in our FD social hall, as long as you by it from us. You can't bring your own from outside. State ABC Law.

Tree - some of our friends from Kansas will correct me, but I am thinking......

Kansas is still dry, I believe. ???? Help????

[Anonymous]

No, Mookie. I'm from there. They now allow drinking, betting, and I believe doing laundry on Sunday.

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by lfish

No, Mookie. I'm from there. They now allow drinking, betting, and I believe doing laundry on Sunday.

Laundry! Well, I am in shock! Ah but fond memories of 3.2 beer - long, long ago! Just a bit for the tummy, you know! [}:)]

[Junctionfan]

GO trains don't allow drinking as far as I know. But,.......who the heck wants to drink on a commuter train? Can't you wait for 10 or 20 minutes till you get home or to a bar?

Most people I know only drink when on the VIA and usually with their diner or after. On the Renaissance equipment, the VIA1 lounge serves liquors and beer.

[Anonymous]

We used to drink 3.2 beer with tomato juice. I have no idea why, really. But the state is now a sinkhole of depravity. Not like Nebraska, of course, but pretty bad.

[Anonymous]

Perhaps since MARC crosses state lines into west virigia from Maryland the train falls under ICC or interstate comrace and is expect from local liqure laws

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

And methinks you shouldn't be drinking anywhere or anytime. Causes brain cells to ....well, you probably already know.

Mook

I think you may be on to something Mook.

[Mookie]

QUOTE: Originally posted by lfish


We used to drink 3.2 beer with tomato juice. I have no idea why, really. But the state is now a sinkhole of depravity. Not like Nebraska, of course, but pretty bad.

We are getting better. Jan 1, you can drink, but not smoke in a bar. I am going to every bar I can just to see how this goes over! Should be a literal riot! [:D]

[Anonymous]

Hmm..anyone think they may not be allowing him to drink because umm...maybe he's not of age to drink?

seriously, i don't get the no smoking in bars deal. I don't frequent them anymore, but seems pretty much that 60-70% of the people who drink in bars also smoke. let's keep them in one spot and let the ripraft kill themselves off instead of putting them in the general population.

[Junctionfan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by SteamerFan

Hmm..anyone think they may not be allowing him to drink because umm...maybe he's not of age to drink?

seriously, i don't get the no smoking in bars deal. I don't frequent them anymore, but seems pretty much that 60-70% of the people who drink in bars also smoke. let's keep them in one spot and let the ripraft kill themselves off instead of putting them in the general population.

Neither do I. How many bars do you know of the are there for the non smoker. For the amount of car fumes one inhails, what more harm is a cigarette or a cigar going to do?

[locomutt]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

QUOTE: Originally posted by SteamerFan

Hmm..anyone think they may not be allowing him to drink because umm...maybe he's not of age to drink?

seriously, i don't get the no smoking in bars deal. I don't frequent them anymore, but seems pretty much that 60-70% of the people who drink in bars also smoke. let's keep them in one spot and let the ripraft kill themselves off instead of putting them in the general population.

Neither do I. How many bars do you know of the are there for the non smoker. For the amount of car fumes one inhails, what more harm is a cigarette or a cigar going to do?

Lexington,Ky. passed a law last year banning smoking in ALL public
establishments(bars,restaurants,etc.) There is not even supposed to be
sections for smoking or non-smoking
Louisville considered this,but so far has been shot down;however,they
are still trying to get it enacted.[:(!]

A couple of Lexington disc-jockeys and the Radio sta. they work for
just recently got into trouble for doing a joke 'on-air';saying the city
had just banned smoking in automobiles also. That one's not true.

Next thing you know,they will be telling us we can't smoke in our
own homes.[:(!]

[Junctionfan]

Pretty hypocritical eh? They don't want you to smoke and yet they still allow the sale of tobacco products..........interesting.

[Anonymous]

[seriously, i don't get the no smoking in bars deal. I don't frequent them anymore, but seems pretty much that 60-70% of the people who drink in bars also smoke. let's keep them in one spot and let the ripraft kill themselves off instead of putting them in the general population.

[espeefoamer]

They want to ban smoking,but they won't touch alcohol.Drinking is far more dangerous to more people than smoking.Someone smoking while driving is only harming his own health. Someone driving while drunk is endangering everyone around him.

[tree68]

QUOTE: Originally posted by SteamerFan

Seriously, i don't get the no smoking in bars deal.

New York took an interesting tack in banning smoking. The law doesn't prevent you from smoking in bars (or any workplace). What is prohibits is employees being exposed to second hand smoke. Which pretty much covers everything. Bars can get an exemption, if they prove they've suffered financially, and if they build a segregated smoking area.

I've come to the conclusion that many barflies are into risky behaviors, which explains the smoking and the drinking....

[RudyRockvilleMD]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Clevelandrocks

Perhaps since MARC crosses state lines into west virigia from Maryland the train falls under ICC or interstate comrace and is expect from local liqure laws

Local laws prevent drinking or the sale of liquor on trains in some states. For example, when the B&O's trains entered WV the sale of liquor was stopped until the train left WV. Then again some railroads didn't license their dining or their lounge cars in certain states because they would only travel through that state for a short time. The New York Central did not license is cars in Pennsylvania for that reason.

Some states were only dry on Sundays such as DE and PA.

[Mookie]

I remember the "dry states" days. Are any states still dry and do planes/trains observe any?

[techguy57]

Indiana is still dry on Sundays, sorta. You can get a drink with lunch or dinner at a restaurant, but liquor stores are closed and you can't buy beer at the drug store or grocery store either. I grew up in Speedway, home of the Indianapolis 500 and now the Brickyard 400 and F1 Gran Prix. The 500 is always on the Sunday before Memorial Day. Try explaining to race fans that they can't buy alcohol on the day of the race, except at the concession stands. Needless to say the stores stocked up on Saturday and some even had to post guards on Sunday to keep people from stealing cases!

I don't think there are any states that are dry 24/7 anymore but I'm pretty sure that Kentucky and Tennessee still have dry counties. Locomutt could probably help me out on this one.

[RudyRockvilleMD]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

I remember the "dry states" days. Are any states still dry and do planes/trains observe any?

I don't know whether trains still have to observe dry state liquor laws, but in my air travels I never noticed the airlines having to cut off the sale of liquor when the plane flew over a dry state

[Anonymous]

Liqor laws can be very strange. On the tourist line I work for, we can either have a license to sell booze in the depot, or on the train but not both. All alcohol bought on the train cannot be taken off the train.

[Anonymous]

Beer is proof that God loves us, and wants us to be happy.

Rich