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Bi-directional running Louisville to Cincinnati. The existing L&N (LCL) route, and now adding L&I to B&O. They are replacing the Flatrock River bridge next year north of the B&O crossing, and that will give them an additional Chicago Southeast routing. Are they lining up bi-directional running Chicago-Nashville?
OWTX Newswire link Big train, big bridge Bi-directional running Louisville to Cincinnati. The existing L&N (LCL) route, and now adding L&I to B&O. They are replacing the Flatrock River bridge next year north of the B&O crossing, and that will give them an additional Chicago Southeast routing. Are they lining up bi-directional running Chicago-Nashville?
The discussion followed the News Releases of CSX reclaiming its lines in W.Va. from WATCO ( Allegheny& Ohio), and some aomw reports of 'work' on routes across Southern Ill. and into Indiana. Nothing definitive, but mostly rumors...
The goal then, that was reported was, for CSX to 're-establish' routes from the Mid-Atlantic to the Midwest. [ The goals were apparently to some how avoid the Chicago 'Bottleneck' (?) and open another 'gateway' North of the Memphis,Tn. area .(?) IIRC , all that happened after the announced 'partnership' between KSC and NS surrounding the 'Meridian Speedway': [320 miles betwn Meridian and Shreveport @ about $300 Million ] (?).
Maybe, by putting some of their 'former pieces' back together and inproving some 'secondary ' (?) lines . they might accomplish another route, an alternative to ones that NS and BNSF, they CSX might give their competition; just That ! (?)
They could rebuild there route thru Moon Tunnel and Athens Ohio
samfp1943 OWTX Newswire link Big train, big bridge Bi-directional running Louisville to Cincinnati. The existing L&N (LCL) route, and now adding L&I to B&O. They are replacing the Flatrock River bridge next year north of the B&O crossing, and that will give them an additional Chicago Southeast routing. Are they lining up bi-directional running Chicago-Nashville? Some time back ( a couple of years ?) There was some FORUM discussion about CSX wanting to 'revive' some of the former 'Heritage' lines that preceeded the formation of what is now CSX (Nee:B&O, C&O, L&N, etc) . The discussion followed the News Releases of CSX reclaiming its lines in W.Va. from WATCO ( Allegheny& Ohio), and some aomw reports of 'work' on routes across Southern Ill. and into Indiana. Nothing definitive, but mostly rumors... The goal then, that was reported was, for CSX to 're-establish' routes from the Mid-Atlantic to the Midwest. [ The goals were apparently to some how avoid the Chicago 'Bottleneck' (?) and open another 'gateway' North of the Memphis,Tn. area .(?) IIRC , all that happened after the announced 'partnership' between KSC and NS surrounding the 'Meridian Speedway': [320 miles betwn Meridian and Shreveport @ about $300 Million ] (?). Maybe, by putting some of their 'former pieces' back together and inproving some 'secondary ' (?) lines . they might accomplish another route, an alternative to ones that NS and BNSF, they CSX might give their competition; just That ! (?)
Some time back ( a couple of years ?) There was some FORUM discussion about CSX wanting to 'revive' some of the former 'Heritage' lines that preceeded the formation of what is now CSX (Nee:B&O, C&O, L&N, etc) .
The L&I routing from Louisville to Seymour,IN to Cincinnati is the effective replacement of the former B&O routing through North Vernon, IN that had been abandoned in favor of the L&N line between Cincinnati and Louisville. CSX found the traffic on the L&N line overwhemed it's physical plant and I expect found it would be more cost effective to invest $100M in the L&I route to Seymour as a means of adding capacity on this 'corridor'.
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The ex-L&N line between Cincy and Louisville is notably ill-suited to pick up extra capacity - lots of grades ( it crosses a drainage pattern with signficant elevation challenges) and short sidings. Usining the L&I to Seymour, then east on the B&O to Cincinnati remove the grades ( the only significant grade is down-hill eastbound) makes a lot of sense.
CandOforprogress2 They could rebuild there route thru Moon Tunnel and Athens Ohio
Oops! That would mean that they would have to cut through the fill and sewage disposal station that I built on the R/W just west of the former diamond with the NYC/Conrail/NS/Kanawa Valley.
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CatFoodFlambeThe ex-L&N line between Cincy and Louisville is notably ill-suited to pick up extra capacity - lots of grades ( it crosses a drainage pattern with signficant elevation challenges) and short sidings. Usining the L&I to Seymour, then east on the B&O to Cincinnati remove the grades ( the only significant grade is down-hill eastbound) makes a lot of sense.
Cajon, Rat Hole, Sand Patch L&N style
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