Trump likes trains see this @9:39

[CandOforprogress2]

A bridge across Long Island Sound? In the Winter? In a Nor Easter? Better go with a tube train like Elon Musks Hyperloop under the water

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CandOforprogress2

so much for the Long Island Railroad are you ready for a bullet train to Orient Point and the Hamptons.

 

 

Don't laugh; the former may be one of the best-cost (as well as the fastest) options to achieving true high-speed Boston-to-Washington service.

I confess to liking Sam Berliner's Orient Point Bridge the first time I read about it (and it gets more interesting when you look at the islands in the Sound in that area) although I suspect a tunnel would be a better HSR solution.  There are actually proposals to use Long Island for the 'second spine' through Hartford ... strange as that may look, and involving a dramatic speed limitation for the route to curve north to cross the Sound to go there ... but to make the 250mph speed Trump was mentioning 'meaningful in time reduction' you'd be looking at the North Shore all the way along, not anything involving Connecticut or Westchester, as the second alternative.  (More conventional HSR, perhaps with tilt, would accommodate the 'local' cities between New York and Boston, including service feeding the very high-speed trains between those two principal cities and to other prospective points that positively benefit from very high sustained speed.  This solves the issues with "intermediate stops" killing much of the benefit from high achievable speed in both the trains and the track structure/infrastructure.)

There was an interesting discussion of this on the Forum a few months ago -- who's got the reference handy?

(And no, you're not going to get HSR to the Hamptons with all those stops and Montauk on the wrong fork... be quicker to set up an Infinibus solution (see onion.com) with new dedicated highly-superelevated busway at that left turn before Bridgehampton...)

 

Interesting ideas!!  Thanks.

[Firelock76]

Thanks for "lighting it up" blue streak!

Interestingly, one of the original ideas behind the Long Island Railroad was for it to be a high-speed (for the time) connection to Connecticutt.  The LIRR would take you from New York City to a place on the Island, and from there you'd catch a steamer across Long Island Sound.  One the New Haven's line was built that was the end of that idea, however.

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CandOforprogress2

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK574DCejQA

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CandOforprogress2

so much for the Long Island Railroad are you ready for a bullet train to Orient Point and the Hamptons.

Don't laugh; the former may be one of the best-cost (as well as the fastest) options to achieving true high-speed Boston-to-Washington service.

I confess to liking Sam Berliner's Orient Point Bridge the first time I read about it (and it gets more interesting when you look at the islands in the Sound in that area) although I suspect a tunnel would be a better HSR solution.  There are actually proposals to use Long Island for the 'second spine' through Hartford ... strange as that may look, and involving a dramatic speed limitation for the route to curve north to cross the Sound to go there ... but to make the 250mph speed Trump was mentioning 'meaningful in time reduction' you'd be looking at the North Shore all the way along, not anything involving Connecticut or Westchester, as the second alternative.  (More conventional HSR, perhaps with tilt, would accommodate the 'local' cities between New York and Boston, including service feeding the very high-speed trains between those two principal cities and to other prospective points that positively benefit from very high sustained speed.  This solves the issues with "intermediate stops" killing much of the benefit from high achievable speed in both the trains and the track structure/infrastructure.)

There was an interesting discussion of this on the Forum a few months ago -- who's got the reference handy?

(And no, you're not going to get HSR to the Hamptons with all those stops and Montauk on the wrong fork... be quicker to set up an Infinibus solution (see onion.com) with new dedicated highly-superelevated busway at that left turn before Bridgehampton...)

[Firelock76]

To bad you can't light up that link.

The only billionaire I know of who's a railfan is Warren Buffet, not only does he own BNSF, but from what I've read he's got a mega-sized O gauge layout at the house.

 

[CandOforprogress2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK574DCejQA

so much for the Long Island Railroad are you ready for a bullet train to Oreint Point and the Hamptons.