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Posted by cjcalton on Friday, May 13, 2016 12:49 PM

I used to see a lot of Conrail units in the Roanoke area, I have some nice photo's of a pair of C39-8's, I believe that these ran down from Hargerstown, Md. and have several photo's of Conrail power around the Bluefield and Richlands area of S.W. Va. so Conrail units weren't foriegn to NS pre-merger.

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Posted by CBT on Thursday, May 12, 2016 2:46 PM

RME

 

 
CBT
could you ever seen conrail locomotives patched because they were bought by NS or CSX?

 

Ye gods! the grammar! The capitalization!  It's not 'mdodel' SWE, that's for sure! Surprise

All kidding aside, there were MANY Conrail locomotives that were patched - I'm sure the railfan picture sites are full of them.  In fact, it was not unusual to see Conrail power patched for "NYC" and "PRR" (those being the intermediate accounting entities that Conrail was divided into before 'assimilation') - I remember a couple where the PRR stencil was actually cut to resemble the Pennsylvania's initial 'logo' (although not enclosed in a keystone). 

I'm not going to prove it, but I think many patch jobs on Conrail engines involved painting over the cab numbers (and in some cases other information on the cab), but not the nose emblems or hood lettering.  I remember seeing 'Conrail Quality' in particular until what seems comparatively recently.  Contrast this with Union Pacific which goes to some pains to get rid of the "Union Pacific" even when it leaves things like "We Will Deliver" intact (see some of the SD9043ACs that went to NS recently).

 

Lol, i know i typed it on my ipad

Thanks,

    Chris

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Posted by wanswheel on Thursday, May 12, 2016 2:09 PM
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Posted by RME on Thursday, May 12, 2016 11:25 AM

CBT
could you ever seen conrail locomotives patched because they were bought by NS or CSX?

Ye gods! the grammar! The capitalization!  It's not 'mdodel' SWE, that's for sure! Surprise

All kidding aside, there were MANY Conrail locomotives that were patched - I'm sure the railfan picture sites are full of them.  In fact, it was not unusual to see Conrail power patched for "NYC" and "PRR" (those being the intermediate accounting entities that Conrail was divided into before 'assimilation') - I remember a couple where the PRR stencil was actually cut to resemble the Pennsylvania's initial 'logo' (although not enclosed in a keystone). 

I'm not going to prove it, but I think many patch jobs on Conrail engines involved painting over the cab numbers (and in some cases other information on the cab), but not the nose emblems or hood lettering.  I remember seeing 'Conrail Quality' in particular until what seems comparatively recently.  Contrast this with Union Pacific which goes to some pains to get rid of the "Union Pacific" even when it leaves things like "We Will Deliver" intact (see some of the SD9043ACs that went to NS recently).

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Posted by pajrr on Thursday, May 12, 2016 11:14 AM

I have pix from 2008 of Conrail Locos with their cab sides patched with NS reporting marks & numbers. The rest of the Conrail paint was intact.

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Posted by CBT on Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:58 AM
Thanks everyone, could you ever seen conrail locomotives patched because they were bought by NS or CSX? I know this isn't the mdodel railroader forum but I figured you guys over here would have more info. I want to know what locomotives I can prototypically run in my layout. Thanks, Chris
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Posted by Shadow the Cats owner on Thursday, May 12, 2016 7:30 AM

My husband is from Streator on the Transcon of the old ATSF.  He tells me of railfanning the Streator Connection in fact we bought our house in sight of that track.  He has seen every kind of power on that track from old Santa Fe to even get this Ferro Mexico being shipped dead in train being shipped to Mexico to be delivered.  We personally have seen all 7 of the US Class 7's on that track.  Throw in the occasional Lessor and it makes for some pretty different Consists.  Heck he even caught 2 WC's and has the pics to prove it in the 92 when he was in HS.  

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Posted by CBT on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 4:50 PM

Thanks, any specific information about Michigan

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Posted by oltmannd on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 4:26 PM

carnej1

Run through power from all the Class 1 railroads could show up on Conrail trains.

If you scroll down through this page there are a couple of photos of Conrail trains with NS locomotives in the pre-merger era:

http://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/ConrailEquipment/ForeignPower?page=8

 

 

Yes.  Most often on trains between NS and Conrail going to and from Allentown via Harrisburg and Front Royal.

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Posted by carnej1 on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:34 AM

Run through power from all the Class 1 railroads could show up on Conrail trains.

If you scroll down through this page there are a couple of photos of Conrail trains with NS locomotives in the pre-merger era:

http://conrailphotos.thecrhs.org/ConrailEquipment/ForeignPower?page=8

 

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Conrail and Norfolk southern
Posted by CBT on Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:47 AM

Hello, I was wondering if in the 1980s you could spot a conrail train with NS power on it? I don't mean patched conrail I mean when conrail was still around. Were NS and Conrail buddy's?

        Thanks,

               Chris

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