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The Transcon at Curtis Hill, Ok.

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The Transcon at Curtis Hill, Ok.
Posted by CHRIS ADAMS on Sunday, April 3, 2016 4:46 PM

Hello, I'm curious about something I noticed on Google Earth at Curtis Hill in Oklahoma, just southwest of Waynoka. You can see where there was an old line change, right near the Belva siding, and on the satellite view, there is a huge circular foundation with a couple of straight 'legs' radiating out.  Does anyone know what this was? I thought maybe a roundhouse for steam helpers, but I can find no mention of it, and the Waynoka roundhouse was just a couple of miles away. Thanks, Adams

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Posted by diningcar on Monday, April 4, 2016 8:03 AM

Adam,if you are looking at the location just to the north of  where the N2210RD overpass crosses the BNSF I believe the two locations seen are related to oil and gas production or perhaps some farming operation. There was no roundhouse or other significant Santa Fe structures here.

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Posted by Convicted One on Monday, April 4, 2016 2:54 PM

I'm just guessing, but I suspect he's talking about this:

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, April 4, 2016 3:26 PM

Convicted One
'm just guessing, but I suspect he's talking about this:

The topo map shows a circle there (dashed line - usually indicating a trail), but no indication of what it is.  

The "arm" on the left appears to have round hay bales in it, as does a disconnected "arm" above and to the right.

Fenced in pens and other artifacts in the satellite image lead me to a conclusion that it's currently agricultural.  But the stuff in the middle of the circle (including the round tanks) might tend toward oil, at least in a past life.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Monday, April 4, 2016 3:51 PM

In street view it appears to be a small feed lot.

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Monday, April 4, 2016 8:15 PM

See an archived Fred Frailey piece with some information.

http://cs.trains.com/trn/b/fred-frailey/archive/2012/06/20/the-santa-fe-s-transcon-in-1953.aspx

Apparently I've lost the ability to activate links.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Monday, April 4, 2016 9:15 PM

The site is in an oil field, but the wells are recent, and the circle (looks like concrete pavement) pre-dates the wells.  Street view shows the 2 white "tanks" as dry bulk hoppers.  The 4 larger circles look like concrete sumps or maybe foundations of silos.  There appears to be a pipe rack to the north of that, but an oilfield supply yard would have several pipe racks.  Maybe its irrigation pipe.  In looking online for feedlot photos, I came across this one:

http://www.livinghistoryfarm.org/farminginthe50s/media/crops0802.jpg

 

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 9:16 AM

It should be noted that E0360RD is the former ROW.  

While this doesn't appear to have been a railroad facility, it may well have been a railroad related facility.

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Posted by Convicted One on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:47 PM

Here are some  links to  sources of Oklahoma historical aerial photos,

Their instructions: http://www.occeweb.com/og/OHADP%20newsletter%202014-08%20update.pdf

The  archive: http://okmaps.org/ogi/search.aspx

Click on the "Historical Aerial Photos" tab on the left side, select the time period you wish, then select the Green +   on the drop down tab to get the available photos  tabs to  overlay on the map, then select the overlay section you desire and a menu pops up offering several photos of that area for the period in question

Another link to the okalahoma dept of Libraries:  http://www.odl.state.ok.us/oar/resources/aerial.htm

 

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Posted by Convicted One on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 2:57 PM

Here's the image for 1959, nothing really there at that time

ftp://okmaps.org//Historical_Photos/OK_SS_Photos_FTP/1950-1959/ss_1959/1959-23N-16W-IM/OP-9W-159.jpg

 

Aerial 1959

 

But image #206 in the 1966  aerial set shows a facility in  place

ftp://okmaps.org//Historical_Photos/OK_SS_Photos_FTP/1960-1969/ss_1966/1966-23N-16W-IM/OK-2HH-206.jpg

Aerial 1966

 

Since whatever it is that is there was built after 1959, I feel it's safe to assume it is NOT an artifact from the steam era of railroading.

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