Trains.com

Rand Mcnally "2004 Commercial Atlas and Marketing Guide" Atlas no longers contains RR maps for

677 views
9 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Rand Mcnally "2004 Commercial Atlas and Marketing Guide" Atlas no longers contains RR maps for
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 2, 2004 5:37 PM
After emailing them and calling them Rand Mcnally Inc. refused to comment on why they no longer include Railroad Maps for each state and a list of Railroads as they have for each edition for the past 40 years or more. This guide is usally a thick tome that is founf at most major public librarys
Rand Mcannaly used to publi***hje "Official Railway Guide" and the "Handy Railroad Atlas of the United States".
One could assume that the thinking is that Railroads no longer play a important role in moving freight as far as the General Puplic is concerned and that Locating a Comercial Enterprise next to railroad tracks is not as important as it used to be.[V]
  • Member since
    November 2003
  • From: West Coast
  • 4,122 posts
Posted by espeefoamer on Thursday, December 2, 2004 6:47 PM
[|)][|)][|)][|)][|)][|)][|)][|)][|)][|)][|)][|)][|)][|)][|)]
[|)]zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Ride Amtrak. Cats Rule, Dogs Drool.
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 2, 2004 8:53 PM
Possibly 9-11 may have to do with it.
  • Member since
    January 2001
  • From: Midwest
  • 718 posts
Posted by railman on Thursday, December 2, 2004 8:57 PM
While the source may be dubious, the story is saddening.
  • Member since
    June 2001
  • From: L A County, CA, US
  • 1,009 posts
Posted by MP57313 on Friday, December 3, 2004 1:21 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by railman
While the source may be dubious, the story is saddening.

I agree. I first "discovered" these in the late 70s, at a local college library. Even today with so much available on the net these atlases are still useful references.
  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: St.Catharines, Ontario
  • 3,770 posts
Posted by Junctionfan on Friday, December 3, 2004 9:06 AM
I don't see the big deal about publishing a rail atlas. It's not as if it is a top secret; you can search and find rails and make up your own map if you want. Strategically speaking, it is impossible to hide the rail unless you make the area around it restricted. So unless the government intends to Area 55 the rail network, there is no logical reason to not have a public rail atlas.
Andrew
  • Member since
    January 2002
  • 437 posts
Posted by mloik on Friday, December 3, 2004 11:21 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

So unless the government intends to Area 55 the rail network, there is no logical reason to not have a public rail atlas.


Junctionfan,

I suspect you mean "Area 51", the purported secret military test-range in Nevada?

I've been in some parts of southern Nevada where the security is intense (and I ain't talking about casino cameras here). I doubt we could afford it for the entire rail network.

Michael
  • Member since
    December 2001
  • From: Northern New York
  • 24,884 posts
Posted by tree68 on Friday, December 3, 2004 11:46 AM
I have an atlas from the '40s that has plenty of railroads, and NO highways.

LarryWhistling
Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) 
Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you
My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date
Come ride the rails with me!
There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...

  • Member since
    March 2004
  • From: Indianapolis, Indiana
  • 2,434 posts
Posted by gabe on Friday, December 3, 2004 11:56 AM
I think the real reason for the absence of such lines on maps is the decline of the passenger rail industry. Back in the day, auto-train combination travel was much more prevalent and it was important to know that the Illinois Central and New York Central went through Matoon, Illinois.

I still find identification of rail lines useful--even if I were not a rail fan--for navigational purposes. It doesn't really affect me too much, as I have most if not all of the lines where I am likely to travel memorized. But if I didn't, the identification of a rail line on a map would be useful.

Gabe
  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: St.Catharines, Ontario
  • 3,770 posts
Posted by Junctionfan on Friday, December 3, 2004 1:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mloik

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

So unless the government intends to Area 55 the rail network, there is no logical reason to not have a public rail atlas.


Junctionfan,

I suspect you mean "Area 51", the purported secret military test-range in Nevada?

I've been in some parts of southern Nevada where the security is intense (and I ain't talking about casino cameras here). I doubt we could afford it for the entire rail network.

Michael


Opps, yes; that's what I meant..............silly me.[:I]
Andrew

Join our Community!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

Search the Community

Newsletter Sign-Up

By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy