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QUOTE: Originally posted by egmurphy QUOTE: ericsp: I've seen the coking unit at Shell's (Equilon at the time) Bakersfield, CA refinery. I definately noticed the dust. It looked like the coking drums (delayed coking) were actually silver, however it was difficult to tell with all of that dust on them. That silver color is actually aluminum sheathing over the insulation on the drums. Regards Ed
QUOTE: ericsp: I've seen the coking unit at Shell's (Equilon at the time) Bakersfield, CA refinery. I definately noticed the dust. It looked like the coking drums (delayed coking) were actually silver, however it was difficult to tell with all of that dust on them.
QUOTE: Originally posted by dknelson I have some recollection of FRA rules that dictate that an open load on a flat car cannot be coupled to a tank car unless there are bulkheads. I have seen even lower bulkheads on flatcars that ship sheet steel. Dave Nelson
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QUOTE: Originally posted by egmurphy QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR I've seen covers similar to those on some gondolas (or maybe they were hoppers--can't remember) used in coke service. Must be really powdery coke for those covers to be necessary. Petroleum coke or coal coke? I remember that when I drove by Tosco's calcination plant between Richmond and Martinez (California) there were several covered hoppers there. I wonder if the covers could be to prevent contamination. A lot of fines are generated in the process of cutting the Petroleum Coke out of the drums. Other refinery units around a coke unit always have a coating of coke dust on them. I'm not saying the cars are carrying coke, but the stuff is very dusty. Ed
QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR I've seen covers similar to those on some gondolas (or maybe they were hoppers--can't remember) used in coke service. Must be really powdery coke for those covers to be necessary. Petroleum coke or coal coke? I remember that when I drove by Tosco's calcination plant between Richmond and Martinez (California) there were several covered hoppers there. I wonder if the covers could be to prevent contamination.
QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR I've seen covers similar to those on some gondolas (or maybe they were hoppers--can't remember) used in coke service. Must be really powdery coke for those covers to be necessary.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater Jeez, I see CP all the time and have yet to come across one of these aluminum auto racks! Perhaps they see more use in the States or Eastern Canada.
QUOTE: Originally posted by DPD1 QUOTE: Originally posted by NightCrawler here are some strange hoppers i saw at the end of a UP train in Arizona. they look like regular covered hoppers with some type of corrugated cover added. anyone know what they haul? I believe I've seen pics of the same type of cars carrying dirty dirt from a cleanup project for an ex Kerr McGee site in West Chicago, IL. I think they took those to Utah, but I could be wrong. Dave Los Angeles, CA -Rail Radio Online-Home of the "TrainTenna" RR Monitoring Antenna- http://eje.railfan.net/railradioonline
QUOTE: Originally posted by NightCrawler here are some strange hoppers i saw at the end of a UP train in Arizona. they look like regular covered hoppers with some type of corrugated cover added. anyone know what they haul?
QUOTE: Originally posted by broncoman QUOTE: Originally posted by NightCrawler here are some of the strange freight cars i have come across recently. here are some strange hoppers i saw at the end of a UP train in Arizona. they look like regular covered hoppers with some type of corrugated cover added. anyone know what they haul? I thought these were used for sugar beet transport from field to refiner (i.e. C&H Martinez)
QUOTE: Originally posted by NightCrawler here are some of the strange freight cars i have come across recently. here are some strange hoppers i saw at the end of a UP train in Arizona. they look like regular covered hoppers with some type of corrugated cover added. anyone know what they haul?
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR The first one is one of the new aluminum vehicle carriers built by Johnstown America. Their name? AVC (clever, huh?). CP has 375 of them, and CN 200 (so far, no takers among the U.S.-headquartered railroads that I'm aware of). A couple of months ago I saw an entire long train of these down near the city of Pittburgh somewhere. Looked pretty neat, and almost blindingly shiny, and someone commented at the time that they were just coming out of Johnstown....
QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR The first one is one of the new aluminum vehicle carriers built by Johnstown America. Their name? AVC (clever, huh?). CP has 375 of them, and CN 200 (so far, no takers among the U.S.-headquartered railroads that I'm aware of).
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