Originally posted by corwinda [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply arbfbe Member sinceFebruary 2002 910 posts Posted by arbfbe on Saturday, April 16, 2005 12:33 PM The recent Trains Magazine article pretty much explains it all, scrap steel prices are up, car types are changing and so lots of cars with a remaining service life are going to the bone yard account they are less than the new standard of longer than 70' for boxcars. These cars are older than 25 years so they have probably depreciated out so their scrap value is much higher than their book value. They are also close to the end of their FRA service lifetime of 35 or 40 years. Cushion drawbars can also prove to be a high maintenance cost in older cars. Now is the time for any interested museums to add these to their collections but they may have to provice equal scrap tonnage to make the donation work. Alan Reply CShaveRR Member sinceJune 2001 From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois 13,681 posts Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, April 16, 2005 9:24 AM No, I don't really know any more about them, though I have seen them on occasion. Just a thought: if SP got them for copper service, and the copper business is gone or diminished, and there is no alternative demand for such cars, UP probably doesn't want to keep them around. You'd be surprised at some of the stuff they've unloaded already. Carl Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!) CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM) Reply kenneo Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Upper Left Coast 1,796 posts Posted by kenneo on Saturday, April 16, 2005 3:11 AM That be the cars! QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp QUOTE: Originally posted by kenneo QUOTE: Originally posted by corwinda QUOTE: Originally posted by kenneo As I remember the car series, these were Hi-Cube 40 appliance cars. Could alos have been used for paper service with the DF equipment removed and the sides made smooth inside. The only thing that these things could be used for is food service for such things as cereals. But not much chance of that since most of that stuff goes in trailers. These were plate C cars.Single door on each side. OK, so I am not into things quite like ericsp. Copper and not appliances. The SP did have similar cars for appliances. Here they are. It looks like the Athearn 40' excess height boxcar is an accurate model. http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b070-36.htm Eric Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:09 AM It appears these cars are still listed in the equipment register. Maybe Carl Shaver knows more about them. "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply corwinda Member sinceJune 2001 From: US 389 posts Posted by corwinda on Monday, November 8, 2004 5:38 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp I believe these are cars built in the 1977 for copper loading (third link). Were they in Southern Pacific or Golden West Service paint? Also, the first two numbers you listed are they same. Those are the ones. SP paint just like the ones in the photos. (somewhat faded but minimal graffiti.) I was wondering about copper service ... *Edited number typo.* Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Sunday, November 7, 2004 4:08 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by kenneo QUOTE: Originally posted by corwinda QUOTE: Originally posted by kenneo As I remember the car series, these were Hi-Cube 40 appliance cars. Could alos have been used for paper service with the DF equipment removed and the sides made smooth inside. The only thing that these things could be used for is food service for such things as cereals. But not much chance of that since most of that stuff goes in trailers. These were plate C cars.Single door on each side. OK, so I am not into things quite like ericsp. Copper and not appliances. The SP did have similar cars for appliances. Here they are. It looks like the Athearn 40' excess height boxcar is an accurate model. http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b070-36.htm "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply kenneo Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Upper Left Coast 1,796 posts Posted by kenneo on Sunday, November 7, 2004 1:41 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by corwinda QUOTE: Originally posted by kenneo As I remember the car series, these were Hi-Cube 40 appliance cars. Could alos have been used for paper service with the DF equipment removed and the sides made smooth inside. The only thing that these things could be used for is food service for such things as cereals. But not much chance of that since most of that stuff goes in trailers. These were plate C cars.Single door on each side. OK, so I am not into things quite like ericsp. Copper and not appliances. The SP did have similar cars for appliances. Eric Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Saturday, November 6, 2004 9:19 PM I believe these are cars built in the 1977 for copper loading (third link). Were they in Southern Pacific or Golden West Service paint? Also, the first two numbers you listed are they same. http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-32.htm http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-34.htm http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b100-41.htm "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply corwinda Member sinceJune 2001 From: US 389 posts Posted by corwinda on Saturday, November 6, 2004 9:05 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by kenneo As I remember the car series, these were Hi-Cube 40 appliance cars. Could alos have been used for paper service with the DF equipment removed and the sides made smooth inside. The only thing that these things could be used for is food service for such things as cereals. But not much chance of that since most of that stuff goes in trailers. These were plate C cars.Single door on each side. Reply kenneo Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Upper Left Coast 1,796 posts Posted by kenneo on Saturday, November 6, 2004 7:02 PM As I remember the car series, these were Hi-Cube 40 foot appliance cars. Could also have been used for paper service with the DF equipment removed and the sides made smooth inside. The only thing that these things could be used for is food service for such things as cereals. But not much chance of that since most of that stuff goes in trailers. Eric Reply corwinda Member sinceJune 2001 From: US 389 posts Moving for dismantle? Posted by corwinda on Saturday, November 6, 2004 6:48 PM I saw three 40 foot boxcars in the Springfield (OR) local today. SP 605573, 605673, 605621 (in pretty good paint, too.) All were marked ' moving for dismantle.' I'm guessing these are headed for the Gundersen car repair shop since there isn't a scrapyard in town. Two questions: might the car shop find it worthwhile to strip them for parts? (didn't look like a dent between the three.) What would these cars have been used for in the last several years? (I believe one was marked Blt 6-72, but that was partially obscured.) Reply Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp QUOTE: Originally posted by kenneo QUOTE: Originally posted by corwinda QUOTE: Originally posted by kenneo As I remember the car series, these were Hi-Cube 40 appliance cars. Could alos have been used for paper service with the DF equipment removed and the sides made smooth inside. The only thing that these things could be used for is food service for such things as cereals. But not much chance of that since most of that stuff goes in trailers. These were plate C cars.Single door on each side. OK, so I am not into things quite like ericsp. Copper and not appliances. The SP did have similar cars for appliances. Here they are. It looks like the Athearn 40' excess height boxcar is an accurate model. http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/spcars/byclass/box/b070-36.htm
QUOTE: Originally posted by kenneo QUOTE: Originally posted by corwinda QUOTE: Originally posted by kenneo As I remember the car series, these were Hi-Cube 40 appliance cars. Could alos have been used for paper service with the DF equipment removed and the sides made smooth inside. The only thing that these things could be used for is food service for such things as cereals. But not much chance of that since most of that stuff goes in trailers. These were plate C cars.Single door on each side. OK, so I am not into things quite like ericsp. Copper and not appliances. The SP did have similar cars for appliances.
QUOTE: Originally posted by corwinda QUOTE: Originally posted by kenneo As I remember the car series, these were Hi-Cube 40 appliance cars. Could alos have been used for paper service with the DF equipment removed and the sides made smooth inside. The only thing that these things could be used for is food service for such things as cereals. But not much chance of that since most of that stuff goes in trailers. These were plate C cars.Single door on each side.
QUOTE: Originally posted by kenneo As I remember the car series, these were Hi-Cube 40 appliance cars. Could alos have been used for paper service with the DF equipment removed and the sides made smooth inside. The only thing that these things could be used for is food service for such things as cereals. But not much chance of that since most of that stuff goes in trailers.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp I believe these are cars built in the 1977 for copper loading (third link). Were they in Southern Pacific or Golden West Service paint? Also, the first two numbers you listed are they same.
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