milepost426 I have seen many of these cars, in unit crude oil trains in Elkhart, In. they are placarded as 1267. From the DOT Hazardous Materials Table, 49 CFR 172.101 "Petroleum Crude Oil, 3, UN 1267, PG I" (or II or III, depending on flash point)
I have seen many of these cars, in unit crude oil trains in Elkhart, In. they are placarded as 1267.
No Ed, don't know those spots. This is Pilsen here - Mexican Food - Nuevo Leon on 18th St. We also go to Greek town along Halsted - Santorini, or to Chinatown or Little Italy on Taylors St. - all nearby. But the closest restaurants, momentarily a hundred feet away, are the dining cars of the Southwest Chief, the Zephyr, and the City of New Orleans - fast food! As for the oil trains, I'd feel more comfortable if it was olive oil.
I have often seen unit trains comprised of these tank cars on Norfolk Southern's main line here in Pittsburgh. They have always been placarded for petroleum crude oil.
I also see these tank cars in unit trains and they also are placarded for petroleum crude oil.
During the last couple of weeks, most of the crude oil tank cars I've seen have had these shields fitted on the ends. I suppose it's to bring them into compliance with new regulations or something.
Tom
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I have seen three such trains the past 18 hours on the NS line to Elkhart. These are impressive looking tank cars. Sparkling clean.
Anthony...you ever go down to Micelli's Deli a little south of you? Or Martin's Bar? Both are on my favorite list for lunch. The breaded steak at Martins is pretty good.
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Black & white tank cars are, at this moment, stopped, sitting still not much more than 100 feet from my bedroom window along the BNSF main, on their viaduct a mile from downtown Chicago. They are lined up as far as I can see in either direction. They are spanking clean, brand new, each with shields at either end so they are up to the new standards. I don't yet know if they are loaded and headed east, or empty and headed west. Three or more loaded unit oil trains of a 100 or so cars go by this place eastbound every day, and an equal number of empty trains pass westbound. Many of the cars I see are without shields - so they are of the older and more dangerous design. The loaded trains pass from this point down a steep grade to a sharp bend - a 90 degree turn towards the south onto NS tracks. I have seen a line of loaded double-high container cars on its side at that bend. I do not relish the prospect of an oil train doing the same flop here.
DPRX reporting marks appear to be owned by CIT leasing. At least some of these cars are currently leased to MGPI Processing in Kansas. http://www.stb.dot.gov/recordations.nsf/c9119a6848e148e585256b70005e8c5c/f4a1734777b9febe85257cb4007867c2/$FILE/31150.pdf
It would appear they are transporting food grade alcohol.
This afternoon I saw a string of black tank cars overall with white ends running southward on NS through Hagerstown, MD. I don't recall seeing any like this before, and wasn't able to get much of a view today. I imagine they're somewhere in Virginia by now.
Carl will have the info you need, he "collects" cars.
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The reporting marks and road numbers are DPRX 256000-256999
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Thanks for the input from all who did abou those tank cars with white ends and broad black center stripes. It is nearly impossible for these ancient eyes to note markings on rapidly passing cars.
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One major use of hydrogen peroxide is for the bleaching of pulp to make paper, so they could be going to a paper mill.
White cars with black bands are not used only for hydrogen peroxide. Actually, those are rare. Hydrogen Peroxide is carried in aluminum tanks, for the most part, and not too much paint of any sort is used on those. Your typical white car with a black band carries corrosive commodities, most likely sulfuric acid, hydrochloric acid, or caustic soda. Some companies (Olin Corporation, for example) paint all of their cars with a black center band and a black underbody...they even call it the "saddle shoe" paint scheme (I kid you not)! But there is nothing to guarantee what sort of paint job you'll see on an acid or caustic car: Dow Chemical likes to paint everything basic gray. Procor, a major lessor of sulfuric acid cars, has them in black or white; I don't think I've ever seen a PROX car with a center band.
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I've seen the black tank cars with white ends, and yes, they're for crude. However, I can't find my notes on them to tell you about reporting marks, number series, and quantity. The paint scheme is indicative of nothing in particular, though, except perhaps for a certain operator or lessee.
edblysardReason I asked is most of the time we get hydrogen peroxide in tankcars that are white with the black band in the middle, top to bottom, lets the loader know if spillage is an issue.
Ed, I am certain that is what he meant. You can see them on the BNSF line, on the Rochelle webcam. There can't be all that many, as you will see them running one direction in unit trains for a couple of days and then it might be a week or two before you see any again. And of course you can't get any real detail off of the cam, like Reporting Marks or Placard Numbers.
These things had their own thread about a year back, about coincident with the big wreck..I think some wisenheimer thought they were going to be a more warm and fuzzy version of an evil crude oil tank car, just as the wreck was about to happen, or just did.
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Reason I asked is most of the time we get hydrogen peroxide in tankcars that are white with the black band in the middle, top to bottom, lets the loader know if spillage is an issue.
The cars are about the same size as the average petrochemical tankcar.
A UN number and a reporting mark would help also.
Ed - I have seen them here and they are all black with white ends. However, the all white w/black bands are interesting, too.
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White body with a black center band in the middle?
Where did you see them, and on what carrier?
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Have noticed recent strings of black and white (at both ends) tankers. Are these the new replacements for the DOT 111 tankers that wiped out Lac-Megantic?
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