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Power Position!
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 29, 2004 6:23 AM
With the Railroads mixing their power nowadays,What type of Power Position do you like? Back to Back,Cab Forward or Long Hood? Why?
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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, October 29, 2004 7:02 AM
I like them in elephant style. which means all the engines are facing forward. looks neat
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Posted by Junctionfan on Friday, October 29, 2004 7:06 AM
I prefer back to back when operating a layout that doesn't have a wye or a turn table.
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Posted by eolafan on Friday, October 29, 2004 7:32 AM
Elephanat style works the best for me.
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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, October 29, 2004 9:20 AM
As a working railroader....

3 untis....2 in the direction of travel and one in the opposite.

No matter how well maintained power is, it fails....not always catastrophic failures that leave it not useful for power, but a number of incidents that leave it not usable as a leader. Since steam left the properties 50 years ago, most of the wye's and/or turntables that were available to turn engine have been removed from the real railroads so turning power is almost out of the question. Crew's can, and do, refuse to operate 'Wide Body' engines backward. Therefore, the two forward and one backward will keep the property fluid, most of the time.

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Posted by railman on Friday, October 29, 2004 11:06 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by BaltACD

As a working railroader....

3 untis....2 in the direction of travel and one in the opposite.

No matter how well maintained power is, it fails....not always catastrophic failures that leave it not useful for power, but a number of incidents that leave it not usable as a leader. Since steam left the properties 50 years ago, most of the wye's and/or turntables that were available to turn engine have been removed from the real railroads so turning power is almost out of the question. Crew's can, and do, refuse to operate 'Wide Body' engines backward. Therefore, the two forward and one backward will keep the property fluid, most of the time.


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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 29, 2004 11:18 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by eolafan

Elephanat style works the best for me.


I always like the look of 3 or more loco's going elephant style, it looks really neat.

Of course, I think the only reason I like it is because it is so rare to see all the locomotives pointing in the same direction....

If there are two loco's it's almost always asses together, for reasons BaltACD mentioned.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 29, 2004 2:21 PM
Elephanat style is the only way for me, since I Prefer steam I'm rather accustomed to the style, back to back just doesn't seem right..
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Posted by CSXrules4eva on Friday, October 29, 2004 6:30 PM
I like the back to back position sometimes, however I'm going to have to agree w/ the majority and say that the elaphant style is the best. I like to see the back to bcak on platforms when preforming branch runs and swiching moves. But just seeing one unit on a high speed intermodel gets me excited!!!LOL
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 29, 2004 8:01 PM
I just love seeing light Yard Switch Engine's all running Cab forward.
The UP SW1200 where always the best.
These Locomotives where used alot on the OPPD line in North Omaha when the UP Transported alot of the Coal off the Burlington Northern back in the 80's and early 90's.
Oh what Memories! I used to realy love those UP SW1200's. But there all gone now[:(].
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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, October 29, 2004 8:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CSXrules4eva

I like the back to back position sometimes, however I'm going to have to agree w/ the majority and say that the elaphant style is the best. I like to see the back to bcak on platforms when preforming branch runs and swiching moves. But just seeing one unit on a high speed intermodel gets me excited!!!LOL


One unit on any train gets me....quaking with fear! While one unit may be adequate to keep the tonnage moving, and even moving at speed. There is absolutely no fall back position when it fails, and and engines do FAIL, generally at the location on a territory where it can create the most havoc to every other train that is trying to move.

Any power coordinator that thinks one engine is the way to go should have to dig the railroad out of the mess that a single engined trains failure creates.

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Posted by Sterling1 on Friday, October 29, 2004 9:11 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by BaltACD

As a working railroader....

3 untis....2 in the direction of travel and one in the opposite.

No matter how well maintained power is, it fails....not always catastrophic failures that leave it not useful for power, but a number of incidents that leave it not usable as a leader. Since steam left the properties 50 years ago, most of the wye's and/or turntables that were available to turn engine have been removed from the real railroads so turning power is almost out of the question. Crew's can, and do, refuse to operate 'Wide Body' engines backward. Therefore, the two forward and one backward will keep the property fluid, most of the time.


A good majority of railroaders like to have to good views all round, so always having a spare in facing in the direction of travel. And besides some railroaders dn't necessarily like having ot peer round this long hoo mass when going round a sharp curve or other obstruction.
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]
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Posted by SID6FIVE on Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:29 AM
Visually, my favorite would be two c39-8 camelbacks nose to nose (NS)...as far as having to operate them,it's a different story,though...
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Posted by SID6FIVE on Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:39 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by BaltACD

QUOTE: Originally posted by CSXrules4eva

I like the back to back position sometimes, however I'm going to have to agree w/ the majority and say that the elaphant style is the best. I like to see the back to bcak on platforms when preforming branch runs and swiching moves. But just seeing one unit on a high speed intermodel gets me excited!!!LOL


One unit on any train gets me....quaking with fear! While one unit may be adequate to keep the tonnage moving, and even moving at speed. There is absolutely no fall back position when it fails, and and engines do FAIL, generally at the location on a territory where it can create the most havoc to every other train that is trying to move.

Any power coordinator that thinks one engine is the way to go should have to dig the railroad out of the mess that a single engined trains failure creates.

Around here (Minneapolis),CPRail runs a lot of one unit wonders...if one were to fail,it could certainly clog up a lot of trackage routes...long trains,lots of junctions and interlockings...
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Posted by oskar on Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:14 AM
Dosen't matter to me



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