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Bicentennial
Posted by Glen Ellyn on Saturday, October 23, 2004 5:23 PM
Hi, I am Glen Ellyn. I have been on this site for sometime now, and just the forum thread. So, I have a question. Have any of you seen a bicentennial BNSF or UP engine? I have, but I didn't bring a camers the three times I saw those engines. So, if you have, is their a way to track one and where it goes.[8)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, October 23, 2004 8:38 PM
Not too sure about tracking them, but take a look at

http://www.railpictures.net

and do a search, there are bound to be lots of sightings.
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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, October 24, 2004 12:10 AM
I'm sure that most of the units that were painted for the U.S. Bicentennial have long since been painted over or scrapped, sold, preserved, or whatever. That was over 25 years ago (already!).

Are you really that close to me?

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Posted by jeffhergert on Sunday, October 24, 2004 12:22 AM
I can't say about the BNSF engine, but I bet the UP engine is the one painted up for the United Way.
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Posted by ericsp on Sunday, October 24, 2004 2:45 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Glen Ellyn

Hi, I am Glen Ellyn. I have been on this site for sometime now, and just the forum thread. So, I have a question. Have any of you seen a bicentennial BNSF or UP engine? I have, but I didn't bring a camers the three times I saw those engines. So, if you have, is their a way to track one and where it goes.[8)]

What bicentennial are you refering to? BNSF did not exist during the US Bicentennial.

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Posted by SSW9389 on Sunday, October 24, 2004 5:25 AM
The United States Bicentennial was in 1976. Many railroads painted locomotives and other equipment in red, white, and blue to help the nation celebrate this historic milestone. As stated most of the equipment is long gone to scrap or has been repainted. The only locomotive I know of still in Bicentennial paint is N&W SD45 1776 at the museum in Roanoke, VA.
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Posted by oskar on Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:09 AM
I know where some of the bicentennial's are

NW 1776- Roanoke,VA
BN 1776- now Gecx 3098
SCL 1776- now CSX WLO1-Waycross,GA
UP 3300 it is a united way unit still alive (SD40or SD40-2)
I don't now where the rest are



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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, October 24, 2004 11:58 AM
Yes, of course!

UP 3300 was on the east end of the system within the past week; it paid a visit to Proviso. It's an SD40-2.

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Posted by espeefoamer on Sunday, October 24, 2004 5:54 PM
Ex SP U25B 3101 is at the Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris CA.It has been repainted into SP scarlet and gray.
The BNSF unit was not a bicentenial. It was painted in 1991 to honor the service men & women of Desert Storm.
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Posted by oskar on Sunday, October 24, 2004 6:52 PM
And don't forget BC Rail but,I don't think that it was for Bicentennial





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Posted by Glen Ellyn on Sunday, October 24, 2004 9:00 PM
ok, I have seen #3020 of the Union Pacific 2 times, recently. (June, 2003:Feburary, 2004) I have also seen the BNSF bicentennial #1776, just during this summer.
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Posted by ericsp on Sunday, October 24, 2004 9:54 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Glen Ellyn

ok, I have seen #3020 of the Union Pacific 2 times, recently. (June, 2003:Feburary, 2004) I have also seen the BNSF bicentennial #1776, just during this summer.

What type of locomotive is BNSF 1776?

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Posted by oskar on Monday, October 25, 2004 2:57 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Glen Ellyn

ok, I have seen #3020 of the Union Pacific 2 times, recently. (June, 2003:Feburary, 2004) I have also seen the BNSF bicentennial #1776, just during this summer.



BNSF? there was no BNSF in 1976 do you mean BN or SF





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Posted by MP57313 on Monday, October 25, 2004 3:06 PM
Even though BNSF was still ATSF and BN in '76, maybe they have painted an "after-the-fact" Bicentennial Engine?

Meanwhile, years ago there was a "Hutchinson & Northern" (?) engine painted red white & blue at the Orange Empire Railway Museum years ago. Not sure if it's still there or in those colors
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Posted by garr on Monday, October 25, 2004 7:49 PM
oskar,

The CSX WL01 in Waycross is the former SCL 1776:1 or 1776:2. One was painted in bicentennial colors and the other wasn't, I am not sure which is which, but, if I remember correctly, the WL01 is the resulting rebuild of the non-bicentennial unit.

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Posted by Glen Ellyn on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:54 PM
1. things. 1 look at the Bicentennial page on www.rr-fallenflags.org you will see alot of them.
2. Look at what passed Rochelle on the date October 27, 2004.

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Posted by espeefoamer on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MP57313

Even though BNSF was still ATSF and BN in '76, maybe they have painted an "after-the-fact" Bicentennial Engine?

Meanwhile, years ago there was a "Hutchinson & Northern" (?) engine painted red white & blue at the Orange Empire Railway Museum years ago. Not sure if it's still there or in those colors

Hutchison & Northern #1 is still at OERM, but has been repainted bright orange.
When it was red white & blue it aquired the nicname "the electric mailbox".
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Posted by Glen Ellyn on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 5:06 PM
Well, ok. But I did see one recentaly. Now, for the picture. Today, in the morning, their was a Union Pacific bicentennial that rolled over the Rochelle junction.
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Posted by oskar on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:12 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by garr

oskar,

The CSX WL01 in Waycross is the former SCL 1776:1 or 1776:2. One was painted in bicentennial colors and the other wasn't, I am not sure which is which, but, if I remember correctly, the WL01 is the resulting rebuild of the non-bicentennial unit.

Jay






jay,

the guy I was talking to in Folkston was not sure too.but I thought that was it I did not know there was 2




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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:59 PM
Glen Ellyn,

Just painting a locomotive red, white, and blue doesn't make it Bicentennial! UP 3300 was painted that way for the United Way, well after the 1976 celebrations were past. That's the unit you saw at Rochelle today (it's looking pretty ratty now).

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Posted by Glen Ellyn on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:18 PM
3300 is a bicentennial? I have been seeing #3300 hundreds of times, and that is a normal yellow UP. The one I have seen twice is #3020.
I just want to see it up close and personla WITH A CAMERA!
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Posted by ericsp on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:53 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Glen Ellyn

3300 is a bicentennial? I have been seeing #3300 hundreds of times, and that is a normal yellow UP. The one I have seen twice is #3020.
I just want to see it up close and personla WITH A CAMERA!

Does this look like it?
http://ncespee.railfan.net/UP/upsd40-2/up3300.html

These are the only pictures of UP 3020 I have found so far.
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/up/up3020alg.jpg
http://www.drgw.net/cnw/SD40-2/6839/3020.html

Here is a unrelated, but rare, locomotive.
http://www.geocities.com/esprrfan200/JPG/UPY-1298.jpg

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Posted by route_rock on Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:40 AM
Rock Island 652 is in Kansas.But BNSF Bi?1991 was repainted a few years ago.Not sure into what scheme or if the plaque inside was taken out.It was a tribute to BN employees that went and fought in Deseret Storm.However some real winner scratched out a few names and wrote his personal opinions of those people(we can only hope he hurt his hand doing it[}:)]the[censored][censored]dirty rotten[censored][censored][censored][censored]jerk)well anyhow time to get off my [soapbox]

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Posted by Glen Ellyn on Thursday, October 28, 2004 4:25 PM
Yes, I have seen those 3020 pictures before. But, in West Chicago Illinois, on 3-24-2003 and in Wheaton, 6-9-2004, I have seen #3020 painted in flying colors. I now know what 3300 is, but to be honest, I have seen that hundreds of times and it is a normal Union Pacific engine. So, does anyone know how and or where to track the bicentenial?

sorry for my spelling in bicentenial. i have seen it spelled 3 different ways.
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Posted by Glen Ellyn on Thursday, October 28, 2004 5:29 PM
sorry for dubble posting. Their is something going on here. The bicentennial just passed through Rochelle at 5:15 PM and the date of October 28, 2004. First it is yesterday at 10:58 AM, now it is at 5:15 PM. If you add 10:58 to 5:15, wich is 4:13 in the morning. That is my prediction. Unless the Union Pacific just wants me to get ed of because they know I am not their directly to see the engine. Wich means it will be comming through where I live at 2:13 AM, and the next time would propably be 6:06 AM where I live. So it would propably get to Rochelle, not taking the fact that it may stop at the West Chicago yard, it would be my prediction that it would get at Rochelle at 8:06 AM. Ladies and gentleman, I am propably wrong, but I think I found the pattern. It is just that their is one thing puzzling me. Everytime I see the bicentenial, I have only seen it come from the east heading tword the west. So when does it turn around?

seperate. Look at the picture of the train on the Union Pacific line. Look at the second engine.

And on the second picture, look at the second picture. The first engine is a slug, second General Electric, third engine, Rio Grande, third, and fourth, I think the third is a bicential Burlington engine.
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Posted by ericsp on Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Glen Ellyn

sorry for dubble posting. Their is something going on here. The bicentennial just passed through Rochelle at 5:15 PM and the date of October 28, 2004. First it is yesterday at 10:58 AM, now it is at 5:15 PM. If you add 10:58 to 5:15, wich is 4:13 in the morning. That is my prediction. Unless the Union Pacific just wants me to get ed of because they know I am not their directly to see the engine. Wich means it will be comming through where I live at 2:13 AM, and the next time would propably be 6:06 AM where I live. So it would propably get to Rochelle, not taking the fact that it may stop at the West Chicago yard, it would be my prediction that it would get at Rochelle at 8:06 AM. Ladies and gentleman, I am propably wrong, but I think I found the pattern. It is just that their is one thing puzzling me. Everytime I see the bicentenial, I have only seen it come from the east heading tword the west. So when does it turn around?

seperate. Look at the picture of the train on the Union Pacific line. Look at the second engine.

And on the second picture, look at the second picture. The first engine is a slug, second General Electric, third engine, Rio Grande, third, and fourth, I think the third is a bicential Burlington engine.


It looks like you tried to up load pictures from you computer. I don't think you can to that (I can't see the pictures). I think you have to link to pictures already on the internet.

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Posted by Glen Ellyn on Friday, October 29, 2004 6:21 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp

QUOTE: Originally posted by Glen Ellyn

sorry for dubble posting. Their is something going on here. The bicentennial just passed through Rochelle at 5:15 PM and the date of October 28, 2004. First it is yesterday at 10:58 AM, now it is at 5:15 PM. If you add 10:58 to 5:15, wich is 4:13 in the morning. That is my prediction. Unless the Union Pacific just wants me to get ed of because they know I am not their directly to see the engine. Wich means it will be comming through where I live at 2:13 AM, and the next time would propably be 6:06 AM where I live. So it would propably get to Rochelle, not taking the fact that it may stop at the West Chicago yard, it would be my prediction that it would get at Rochelle at 8:06 AM. Ladies and gentleman, I am propably wrong, but I think I found the pattern. It is just that their is one thing puzzling me. Everytime I see the bicentenial, I have only seen it come from the east heading tword the west. So when does it turn around?

seperate. Look at the picture of the train on the Union Pacific line. Look at the second engine.

And on the second picture, look at the second picture. The first engine is a slug, second General Electric, third engine, Rio Grande, third, and fourth, I think the third is a bicential Burlington engine.


It looks like you tried to up load pictures from you computer. I don't think you can to that (I can't see the pictures). I think you have to link to pictures already on the internet.


Alright, I will work on it. But I can see the bottom one. Look at the second engine if you can see it.
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Posted by Glen Ellyn on Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:45 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

Glen Ellyn,

Just painting a locomotive red, white, and blue doesn't make it Bicentennial! UP 3300 was painted that way for the United Way, well after the 1976 celebrations were past. That's the unit you saw at Rochelle today (it's looking pretty ratty now).

I don't understand, what is United Way?
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Posted by Glen Ellyn on Sunday, November 7, 2004 12:03 PM
Has anyone seen #3300 lately? If so, can you please report where.
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Posted by Paul Milenkovic on Sunday, November 7, 2004 10:32 PM
Sorry, can't resist.

A Bi-Centennial? Why that would be a drawbar-connected pair of double-engined DD40X's -- sort of like the drawbar connected Baldwin Centipede pairs.

If GM "killed the electric car", what am I doing standing next to an EV-1, a half a block from the WSOR tracks?

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