She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw
In the last few years, I've come to the conclusion that many young people today think of courtesy as a form of weakness.
_____________
"A stranger's just a friend you ain't met yet." --- Dave Gardner
I doubt if the folks in the little group (and you know to whom I refer) who seem to think the forum is set up for their private fun will answer this with anything but scorn, name-calling or their usual string of off-topic posts. That has been their pattern in dealing with people they do not like, usually because some non-railroaders are critical of certain rail practices. Rather than show minimal civility and engage in a factual argument (in the philosophical sense) they resort to the former.
Some of the outsiders unfortunately"lose their cool" and thus end up doing what the "group" wants. In some cases, it leads to suspension, either forced by the moderators or on their own. The result seems to be fewer posts of any real substantive issues and generally less and less participation. As Ii stated before, toleration seems in short supply.
C&NW, CA&E, MILW, CGW and IC fan
Euclid DeggestyI click on the link--and get: Sorry, there was a problem with your last request! Either the site is offline or an unhandled error occurred. We apologize and have logged the error. Please try your request again or if you know who your site administrator is let them know too. The moderators deleted that thread without any public explanation because they had received 20 complaints after several forum members mobbed the thread with personal insults and off topic gibberish because they resented the discussion.
DeggestyI click on the link--and get: Sorry, there was a problem with your last request! Either the site is offline or an unhandled error occurred. We apologize and have logged the error. Please try your request again or if you know who your site administrator is let them know too.
Either the site is offline or an unhandled error occurred. We apologize and have logged the error. Please try your request again or if you know who your site administrator is let them know too.
The moderators deleted that thread without any public explanation because they had received 20 complaints after several forum members mobbed the thread with personal insults and off topic gibberish because they resented the discussion.
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
Murphy Siding Now here's a guy who had no problem putting all his eggs in one basket. Look how it turned out:cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/120779.aspx
Now here's a guy who had no problem putting all his eggs in one basket. Look how it turned out:cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/120779.aspx
Johnny
My point exactly.
I am just saying maybe he does not want all his eggs in one basket.
Yes, but... that would be too logical to put them all in one thread.
I don’t see what the problem is. It is not hard for forum members to team up and get a thread removed by provoking a blizzard of insults. Maybe that is why our friend cajonsummit does not post all of his videos in one thread.
Not really, Murph.
So what'd you think of the video? Leave you thirsting for more?
I think participation in the Trains forums comes and goes, swells and ebbs, depending on a lot of factors, including seasonal ones. I do agree it's been slow on here for months. At the same time, there hasn't been a lot of railroad news, aside from shipper complaints about slow service and the safety topics some of us love to endlessly dissect. Such RR news as there is has been put in the shade by global events of much greater import.
The forums will be back -- just wait and see. (They're still a blur of motion versus other forums I've dipped into.)
If not for trolling I would have no social activity at all
Well, so far we are tolerating each other. But you will never convince a part of the forum that they should ever even sort of agree with people that they just flat out don't agree with and don't want to agree with. And I am not a strong enough debater to go against a lot of the philisophical people we have on here.
Having said that - there are people who do what I call "ravel". Women especially tend to do that. You go over things in your mind - over and over and look at it from a lot of different ways and then one nite in the dark in the potty - you have an epiphany - (I can hear the smirking from here) and you finally have your answer or at least a direction.
My husband can't stand my "raveling". I have a real problem with his laid-back-attitude. He keeps me from jumping out a window and I solve a lot of problems for him. Perfect in a marriage, not so much in a discussion. Especially a male-dominated forum.
It is probably not a good idea to keep deliberately poking a stick at someone that even at one day seniority has far more experience on a railroad than most of the rest of us will ever have. But it is right to ask them for explanations or answers to questions or maybe even their philosophy on a subject re: trains. But then when they give an answer and it seems agreeable to the rules and regs of the industry, who are we to keep tearing them apart for either the rest of the answer or more of an answer. We must stop "raveling" and start respecting their opinions and answers just as adults should. And they really should learn that if you keep feeding that stray cat, it will hang around even more.
Or...maybe there is a handful of people that carry sticks and a handful that like stray cats. Then they will always be "discussing" this in a thread.
We are always going to have trolls, posters who delight in disrupting the smooth flow of things, posters who seem eternally unhappy and some that are always smiling, no matter what. Everyone that stays on the forum any length of time gets something out of the forum for themselves. But we all need to make sure we aren't ruining it for other people at the same time we are gleefully thinking this is great entertainment.
Toleration is something humans don't do very well most of the time. I guess that is why they invented road rage?
Your turn - anybody.
Mookie And on this Schlimm and I agree! So how do we go about changing this fact.
And on this Schlimm and I agree!
So how do we go about changing this fact.
Were is Dective Cinderdick when we need him.
Solution still pending....
Anyone?
schlimm Besides these silly videos and the Chatterbox, one way or another there are fewer and fewer postings on the forums. The only threads that generate postings are controversial and then those come to an end, not by reaching any conclusions, but by driving folks away in some manner.
Besides these silly videos and the Chatterbox, one way or another there are fewer and fewer postings on the forums. The only threads that generate postings are controversial and then those come to an end, not by reaching any conclusions, but by driving folks away in some manner.
Murphy Siding schlimm Besides these silly videos and the Chatterbox, one way or another there are fewer and fewer postings on the forums. The only threads that generate postings are controversial and then those come to an end, not by reaching any conclusions, but by driving folks away in some manner. Chatterbox= 1 thread out of 20Exciting videos= 5 or 6 threads out of 20A difference of 500-600% in magnitude. Other difference might be that the Chatterbox thread (singular) has dozens of participants, the exciting video threads (plural) have one.
Perhaps the language in my post was unclear. First, I have no criticism with the CBX thread. None. I also have no criticism of folks who post videos that few even view. That is the approach I have always had: to comment on threads that may interest me and the ones that i find boring or just not my cup of tea I ignore. I also mostly ignore repetitious postings, whether Euclid's or "the group" when they engage in posting a long string of off-topic posts.
But if you subtract the video threads and the permanent threads (including CBX), the number of posts seems to be down significantly. That is my point.
Thank you Murphy. I have been debating quite a while how I wanted to reply to Schlimm. I still don't know why the CBX irritates people so much. I daily wade thru lots of arguments that never seem to have any ending. They just resurrect in a different form and start spinning again. OK - lots of people like merry-go-rounds. But they don't run down the page moving everything out of their way.
The CBX at least puts a little humanity on the forum in very little space. Every forum poster is a warm body - I think?
Until the mods decide to either stop the lava flow or put them all in a corrall, there isn't much any of us can do but P & M or ignore them until they fill the whole first page and with the short attention span of humans today - the forum will wander off to another spot.
And then there will be no one to care - but the CBX!
Math geek update:In 7 days time, the current Chatterbox thread (singular) has had 84 replies by 17 forum members and 2179 views.Interpolated over a years time, that would have the potential to have 4368 replies by 884 forum members 113,308 views. All this, while only occupying one thread spot out of 20 on the front page. And-gasp!- it keeps popping to the top because folks are participating in the thread (singular) which is what forums are for.
Nope, still haven't watched it.
Geared Steam yawner, as are most of these videos. Do people really watch these?
yawner, as are most of these videos. Do people really watch these?
"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination."-Albert Einstein
http://gearedsteam.blogspot.com/
Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.