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Posted by samfp1943 on Monday, October 3, 2005 11:55 AM
One of the best pieces of advice regarding chemical plant and handling safety was: If you see an employee running. Start running right withm them, AND WHENEVER THAT PERSON STOPS RUNNING.Then you ask them why you were running.

 

 


 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, October 3, 2005 11:44 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bobwilcox

You sure pick the winners-if the VCM blast does not kill you the cancer will!


I spent nearly ten years in a PVC plant in OKC. Besides being three times as flammable as gasoline and a known carcinogen, VCM gives off Hydrogen Chloride gas when it burns. As soon as you inhale the HCl gas, it turns to Hydrochloric Acid in your lungs. That could ruin your entire day, as the protein in your lungs hydrolyzes. We always kept a good supply of full Scott Airpack breathing apparatus handy. If you want to see a sight that will make the "pucker factor" go off scale, just watch a couple of those big VCM tank cars derail and hit the ground while your unloading racks are being switched.[:(] BTW, any job that might conceivably release even the slightest amount of VCM had to be done while wearing supplied breathing air, either through a hose from the plant's breathing air system, or from a Scott Airpack. All in all, it was nasty stuff to work with/around. [:(]

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Posted by Junctionfan on Monday, October 3, 2005 6:20 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

I want to model them in HO as prototypical as possible. It's the same as I wrote down the series of various vinyl chloride tankers because Geon doesn't take Atlas chlorine tankers.


Hey Junctionfan, did you ever model these cars? pix?...,


No; unfortunately I haven't had the time or the money to yet but I am probably going to just buy them eventually in the summer with summer-job money and hire someone in the club to paint them up.

[:I][:I]I know.......I am being a lazy model railroader......[:D]
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Posted by mvlandsw on Monday, October 3, 2005 12:07 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by n_stephenson

Just remember if you smell burnt almonds you've got about 30 seconds to get your affiars in order.
They always say that in hazmat classes but what do burnt almonds smell like anyway?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 2, 2005 7:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

I want to model them in HO as prototypical as possible. It's the same as I wrote down the series of various vinyl chloride tankers because Geon doesn't take Atlas chlorine tankers.


Hey Junctionfan, did you ever model these cars? pix?...,
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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, October 14, 2004 2:04 PM
Have some fun with it.... Model a "Methyl Ethyl Awful" car.

And while you're at it, put some almond extract on the car..

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Posted by Junctionfan on Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bobwilcox

You sure pick the winners-if the VCM blast does not kill you the cancer will!


I also plan to model Nova Chemical Sclair division-ethalene oxide; Glidden-xylene, toulene diisocyanate; Ball Glass-hydroflouric acid, and Weyerhauser-hydrogen peroxide.

Cool industries and tankers-dangerous chemicals though.

I hope you guys who actually have to switch that junk take care yourselves.
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Posted by adrianspeeder on Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:10 PM
Oh boy, my favorite type of car. Im not so sure that the #s should be spread willy nilly on the net.

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Posted by bobwilcox on Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:48 PM
You sure pick the winners-if the VCM blast does not kill you the cancer will!
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Posted by Junctionfan on Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:53 AM
I am modeling a chemical plant that makes methyl methacrylate monomer which requires hydrogen cyanide or hydrocyanic acid.
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Posted by Junctionfan on Thursday, October 14, 2004 7:49 AM
I want to model them in HO as prototypical as possible. It's the same as I wrote down the series of various vinyl chloride tankers because Geon doesn't take Atlas chlorine tankers.
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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, October 14, 2004 7:24 AM
Not picking a fight, but just wondering...
Why do you seem so interested in these cars, some of the most dangerous cargo we transport?

I do this for a living, and after 8 years, I still dont like being anywhere near one of them, or having them in the yard....

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Posted by Junctionfan on Thursday, October 14, 2004 6:41 AM
Would anybody happen to know the number series?
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Posted by dehusman on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 9:30 PM
They called the big warning signs on the HCN cars "leak detectors" because if you had time to read the entire warning on the sign you knew it wasn't leaking.

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Posted by Junctionfan on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:29 PM
Who said relieving yourself wasn't a risky business; he might have recieved a Darwin award.
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Posted by dehusman on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:25 PM
In a hazmat response class they were showing pictures of derailments and in one picture there was a stack of "candy striper" cars, like cordwood. The picture was taken from several hundred yards away. Next to the pile was a guy with his back to the camera and both hands at his waist. You got it. He was taking a leak.

When asked why he was there he said it was the one place he knew that he could go where nobody else would be around.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 6:48 PM
Just remember if you smell burnt almonds you've got about 30 seconds to get your affiars in order.
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Hydrocyanic Acid tankers
Posted by Junctionfan on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 6:40 PM
Hello everybody,

I asked this question before and was wondering if anybody new the number series of the ACFX cars. They are the ones that have those cool red stripes on the white tanker. They come from New Hampshire Chemical if I remember right.

I saw one on an NS manifest through Fostoria heading west.

Thankyou
Andrew

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