What kind of car is this

[Junctionfan]

I was looking on the Fallen Flags website and found pictures of some interesting covered hoppers.

I saw them on gelwood.railfan.net

The first set located in the Union Tank Car category was (LO) utlx 80297 and utlx 80334.

The other one under the "Freight car private misc"; if you scroll down to the I section and go to the ITG inc area, go to itgx 12582.

What are thease hoppers? What do they carry? What are their number series and are their any other ones owned by others like this?

Andrew

[traingeek087]

Hyperlink the site to here so we just have to click on the link. I can't find that site otherwise.

[Dough]

I think that I got close to the second one. Here is the site:

http://gelwood.railfan.net/

Bingo I found it! What's my prize?

Union tank cars are under this:

http://gelwood.railfan.net/utlx/utlx.html

And the other is right here:

http://gelwood.railfan.net/misc-i/itgx12582k.jpg

Sorry I'm no help other than to say that you would have a hard time fitting a Seally into these...[;)]

[edblysard]

I will find out for you when I go back to work.
The contents are a red oxide colored powder, a fine, very fine powder.
We spot the UTLX cars in Lubrizoil all the time, if you can blow up the photo, you will see on the right hand side, near the end, the ledgend, "Spot this car A end first in the Deer Park, Tx plant, spot the B end first in the ****Ohio plant"

(cant remember the name of the place)
The reason for this is because both plants have unloading facitities on one side only, note the discharge chutes face only one direction...

The cars are round because the powder is so fine, it will stick to the sides of a square car, and in the angles and corners...so they are round to allow the powder to flow more freely.

Ed

[Junctionfan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

I will find out for you when I go back to work.
The contents are a red oxide colored powder, a fine, very fine powder.
We spot the UTLX cars in Lubrizoil all the time, if you can blow up the photo, you will see on the right hand side, near the end, the ledgend, "Spot this car A end first in the Deer Park, Tx plant, spot the B end first in the ****Ohio plant"

(cant remember the name of the place)
The reason for this is because both plants have unloading facitities on one side only, note the discharge chutes face only one direction...

The cars are round because the powder is so fine, it will stick to the sides of a square car, and in the angles and corners...so they are round to allow the powder to flow more freely.

Ed

Wierd looking cars eh? When I first looked at them, I though they were used for cement, lime or calcium carbide until I noticed the redish colour. It almost looks like cupric oxide but I could be sure of it. Who ships the powder to Lubrizol? There is a Lubrizol in Niagara Falls Canada but they only every seem to get tankers for lube oil and fuel additives loading.

[ericsp]

It seems like I have seen cars like these in cement service.

[CShaveRR]

These cars are of Union Tank Car Company's Pressure Flow design. Yes, some were used for cement at one time. There may have been up to 400 of these in UTLX series 80100-80499 (built mostly during the 1960s, possibly the early '70s). Most of the cars you see with other reporting marks probably were in this UTLX series originally. One possible exception to that were some cars built for the Seaboard Air Line (by the way, don't confuse these with cylindrical cars built by another company for SAL and CB&Q!).

If you find any more of these, shoot them on sight! They're getting rare, and will probably become extinct due to age within the next few years.

[ericsp]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

These cars are of Union Tank Car Company's Pressure Flow design. Yes, some were used for cement at one time. There may have been up to 400 of these in UTLX series 80100-80499 (built mostly during the 1960s, possibly the early '70s). Most of the cars you see with other reporting marks probably were in this UTLX series originally. One possible exception to that were some cars built for the Seaboard Air Line (by the way, don't confuse these with cylindrical cars built by another company for SAL and CB&Q!).

If you find any more of these, shoot them on sight! They're getting rare, and will probably become extinct due to age within the next few years.

With a camera of course, otherwise they may become rarer.[:D]

The interesting thing is that they carry UTLX reporting marks and not UTCX like other UTC covered hoppers.

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

These cars are of Union Tank Car Company's Pressure Flow design. Yes, some were used for cement at one time. There may have been up to 400 of these in UTLX series 80100-80499 (built mostly during the 1960s, possibly the early '70s). Most of the cars you see with other reporting marks probably were in this UTLX series originally. One possible exception to that were some cars built for the Seaboard Air Line (by the way, don't confuse these with cylindrical cars built by another company for SAL and CB&Q!).

If you find any more of these, shoot them on sight! They're getting rare, and will probably become extinct due to age within the next few years.

So if they are going out, what kind of car could be substituted?? It is odd seeing a round side car without a placard.

[Junctionfan]

ericsp: Dragon Cement has cars very similar to thease. Maybe you were thinking of
them?

CShaveRR: Thankyou for the information of the utlx ones.

Everybody: Does anybody else know of any more companies with thease other than
utlx and itgx?