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Variant on favorite RR question
Posted by gabe on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:02 AM
Occassionally you will see someone on here post a "what is your favorite railway" question. I find these amusing just to see whether older railroads, modern mega railroads, shortlines, regional, etc. seem to be dominant.

However, I have also noticed that almost to the person, their favorite railway will be a railway that they were or are geographically associated with, went through their home town, etc. Thus, I think the favorite railway question is more indicative of the geographic origin of TRAINS readers rather than any indication of what railroad is the most interesting. (I am no different, my southern Illinois birthplace undoubtedly has something to do with my preferences of the Illinois Central and Chicago Illinois & Midland).

I think the more interesting question is "what is your favorite railway that did not play a major part in the geographic region that you grew up in/live in?"

Mine is the Milwaukee Road. I have never even seen a live Milwaukee Road diesle, but the pictures of that railroad are something to behold and there is a mistique about it that railway beckons me to all that we have lost as railfans. If good railfaning and scenic pictures sold freight, the Milwaukee Road would be giving UP the finger right about now.

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Posted by Randy Stahl on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:05 AM
The Milw. gave me my first RR job... it's one of my favorites also. I miss being called a useless little maggot!
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Posted by Modelcar on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:13 AM
....Under the above discription of "favorites".....mine would have to be the Sante Fe RR. 30 plus years ago I and others had the responsibility of running automotive [truck transmissions], tests in the desert area around Kingman, Az. which included a bunch of desert running, even through famous Oatman...and the Sante Fe tracks pass right through that area. I was so impressed with what I saw over a period of a year and a half with the motive power in the silver and red and even passenger trains passing with the full length domes...I simply became impressed and that is my choice.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:16 AM
Lehigh Valley; Had reletives work on "the valley"
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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:44 AM
All the little guys with big aspirations who never quite made it.

OCA&A/ Oklahoma City, Ada & Atoka
New Mexico Central
St. Louis, Rocky Mountain & Pacific (Swastika and all)
Garden City, Gulf & Northern
Cincinnati Northern (Little Giant)
Beaver, Meade & Englewood
Kansas Central
Denver, Laramie & Northwestern
Colorado-Kansas RR
Colorado Midland RR
Laramie, Hahns Peak & Pacific
Omaha Lincoln & Beatrice
and so on....
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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:56 AM
OLB is still running, which is more than I can say for the CB&Q - my favorite...

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Posted by zardoz on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:23 AM
D&RGW. Love the geography it ran through, and the locomotives looked so nifty.


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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:35 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

OLB is still running, which is more than I can say for the CB&Q - my favorite...

Mookie


Just now they don't make it out of the Lincoln city limits....Should they chop the "O" and the "B" out of their reporting marks[:(]???
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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 12:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

OLB is still running, which is more than I can say for the CB&Q - my favorite...

Mookie


Just now they don't make it out of the Lincoln city limits....Should they chop the "O" and the "B" out of their reporting marks[:(]???
They should remark them GPA (George P) and yes, do away with the O and B.
O is becoming it's own state and B, well, it is just B.

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Posted by CBQ_Guy on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 2:09 PM
I kinda have taken to the Toledo, Peoria & Western RR (TP&W aka the "Tip Up") since I first discovered it several years back. In fact, if I hadn't been so entrenched with Burlington locos and rolling stock on my HO layout at the time, I would have seriously considered modeling the TP&W instead.

According to my reading at the time, at one point in their history, they were owned by the Santa Fe and Pennsy, IIRC, who used them as an alternate route to get around having to go through Chicago. Sounded like a bridge line which would allow me a greater variety of equipment to be run through on the layout. But I would have plenty of local online switching on the layout as well, including TOFC.

Haven't been to their yard down in Peoria in a few years, but it was very accesible at the time as long as you "checked in" with whomever was in the tower first, behaved yourself, and used common sense. Don't know if that has changed by now, though. At least the new layout will have them as an interchange railroad.
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Posted by gabe on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 2:21 PM
CB&Q Guy,

The TP&W is a great railroad. It may have made my list were it not for the fact that I live close to it, thus disqualifying it for the question. I highly recomend following it (on Route 30 I think). It has all of the charm of a small mom and pop railroad but is big enough to have many different aspects to explore. I wi***hey would have preserved their Alco 4-8-4s.

It is not as fun since Rail America took the rains (but what railroad is?).
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Posted by espeefoamer on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 4:15 PM
I would say the Milwaukee Road, with thier electrified zones through the Rockies and Cascades.#2 would be the New Haven with a substantial electrified segment, and a wide variety in thier diesel roster.[8D]
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Posted by MP173 on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:02 PM
Gabe:

I too, was born and raised in Southern Illinois, although I think probably a little more southern than you. It sounds as if you are in the Central part of the state, what with your discussions on TPW, IC, and CIM.

I am familiar with all three of those, having grew up 1 block from an IC branch and having travelled Central Illinois for years as a salesman. I recall spending time at Watseka and watching the MOPAC/Chessie trains slam the diamond on the TPW and also spent a little time around the CIM yard in Springfield.

BTW...is the tower still in operation in Springfield? I think it is Ridgely or Ridgeway Tower and it is at the junction of the UP/CIM on the old GMO mainline. I think my favorite railroad environment today is an operating tower.

As a young railfan in the 70's I was fascinated with the Erie Lackawanna. I had planned during spring break of 1976 to go to Huntington Indiana and railfan the EL for a day or so before going home. However...mom called and said "when will you be home?" I passed on the EL and went home. It was a great decision, although it took a few years to realize it!

Lots of great memories of Central and Southern Illinois.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 6:58 PM
(Aside from Canadian Pacific - which I am obviously linked to by geography) I've always been a fan of the BN before it was BNSF.

I always liked the looks of all those green loco's and boxcars.
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Posted by fuzzybroken on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:27 PM
Well, my favorites would be Milwaukee Road, Wisconsin Central, and Wisconsin & Southern, but that's 'cuz they're close by. And also The Milwaukee Electric and the North Shore.

Favorite non-local railroads:
Northern Pacific - love the color scheme and some of the engines they ran.
Kankakee Beaverville & Southern - they used to run Alcos, otherwise just a cool railroad
Baltimore & Ohio - a friend of mine like the pre-Chessie B&O, and I guess it kinda grew on me too.
MidSouth/Kansas City Southern - both just a little "south" of unusual!

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Posted by Train Guy 3 on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:28 PM
D&RGW Seen lots of photos and it looks like a great place to watch trains.

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Posted by MP57313 on Saturday, August 14, 2004 1:36 AM
Excluded (where I grew up): D&H and EL [Binghamton, NY]
AT&SF and SP [Redlands, CA]
B&M and PC [Cambridge, MA]

Therefore: Western Maryland. Not that many route miles but sure looked like a heavy-duty mainline. Judging by all the small museums along its route it has a lot of fans {like an eastern Rio Grande}

Also: Winston-Salem Southbound. Always a non-smoker but really like the name!

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Posted by Puckdropper on Saturday, August 14, 2004 3:18 AM
QUOTE: I highly recomend following it (on Route 30 I think).


It's on U.S. 24. From Gridley towards Peoria it runs right next to the highway. It splits off near Washington and heads to East Peoria.

When you get to Route 29, you can follow that north next to the IAIS (Iowa Interstate). Do watch for deer on 29, they're out there (I've seen the most northbound outside of Henry, just about the spot where you see the yard limits marker.)
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Posted by locomutt on Saturday, August 14, 2004 7:15 PM
My favorites would be the:
C&O
B&O
Chessie

Grew up in C&O country,but with the way things are going these
days you don't know.

Now,I guess it would be:

P&L
L&I

Not sure it would be any prototype railroads,I'm
rather fond of my model railroad's name.

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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, August 14, 2004 10:15 PM
MP57313....Grew up not too far from Western Maryland RR....and yes, from all I've read and heard...and witnessed....The WM was a well built route. Some areas a better route than the B&O over the Alleghenies. Too bad it was not chosen to stay with us. I have walked over the 1500' viaduct near Meyersdale, Pa.....[now a Trail bridge], and that is an impressive structure.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 15, 2004 8:34 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

OLB is still running, which is more than I can say for the CB&Q - my favorite...

Mookie


They didn't call it the "Great Burlington Route" for nothin'; that's my favorite too![:D][:p]
Even though it went within 10 miles of where I live, the BN was an established line by the time I came along, and since you've only had to of lived by the road, that would be my vote....
Then you have the KCS and BNSF, neither come close to the old CB&Q in my mind though![:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 16, 2004 2:19 AM
For non-geographic favorites I would have to say that I like the Canadian Pacific from my modeling days, the old beaver logo is just too cool. Then I would also have to say the B&O, always one of the first properties that I buy when I play Monopoly [:)]

Then just for kicks, favorite geographic ones would have to be D&RGW and Rock Island, both pretty much built my home city of Colorado Springs!
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Posted by cpbloom on Monday, August 16, 2004 11:42 AM
The Santa Fe is my second favorite railroad behind Conrail; I have never lived in AT&SF turf.
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Posted by pat390 on Monday, August 16, 2004 12:52 PM
Grand Trunk and Western went through my town until CN bought them out
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Posted by wcfan4ever on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 12:20 AM
I'm going to have to go with the Santa Fe. Never once did I see a Santa Fe train. I never taveled to go see trains before they became BNSF. I have seen SF locomotives on the WC...the F45's they purchased and now I have seen SF loco's on BNSF but never seen a SF train. The colors and loco consists always amazed me. Every magazine I read looking at one was great only dreaming of going out west to catch one someday. Never happened but I did finnally see a SF loco.

Aside from that, locally the WC will always be #1.

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