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CN 1899 Oshkosh Bridge & Oshkosh Yard Projects (Linked Photo Heavy)
Posted by CNW 6000 on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:06 PM

I'm going to try my hand at imitating KP here in documenting CN's MoW work in Oshkosh, WI on the Neenah Sub.  In the big picture, the 1899 Swing Bridge over the Fox River will be replaced, the Oshkosh "Yard" will switch positions with the Mainline, and the spur at Blended Waxes (industry) will be redone.

From what I understand the Blended Waxes Spur work will come first and the bridge & yard projects will largely be at the same time.  All pictures in this thread are from my Flickr pages and are clickable should you desire to expand on them.  Comments and opinions are welcome and I'll do my best to answer them.

This post will cover the work on the Blended Waxes spur so far. 

July 14, 2011
The Blended Waxes spur as original.  Seen from the 14th Avenue crossing looking southward.  The WC (former MILW) caboose is used as a buffer car because the angle of the curve is very tight and the power CN keeps in the area can't couple to the cars "on spot" due to the drawbar angle on the locomotives.
Before Work

July 18, 2011
Work begins.  The fence around the industry is brought down and base grading of loose material has taken place.  Rock, ties and 'stick rail' is stacked near the project.
It Begins

July 24, 2011
Machinery is brought to the area in the form of a spiking machine.  Spikes and plates are also brought in.
Ready for Work

Close-up view of the future new track area.
Graded

July 25, 2011
The new spur rails have been assembled on site but not spiked or ballasted.
New Track

October 6, 2011
Construction commences on structure for overhead loading/unloading piping after a low structure for piping is constructed.  Rails get spiked and ballasted.
More Structure

October 8, 2011
The overhead piping structure is complete and more rail, ballast and ties are brought in.
Progress

October 15, 2011
The caboose is gone over the weekend and even more supplies are staged.
Monday...

October 17, 2011
Work has commenced on the rebuild/cut-in.  Contractors are seen here working on reattaching the switch to the main siding after relocating it approximately 25 feet north of its original location.  The original rail to the facility has been removed.
Switched

October 18, 2011
The switch and rail connecting the spur to the siding are roughly ballasted & spiked.  Sub-roadbed grading on the spur track is occuring.
Work Continues

October 19, 2011
The contractor's crew preps the spikes for installation after the rails & ties have been laid and roughly ballasted.  Must've been their first time having their picture taken!
The Crew

Overview of the project area.  Some finish work needs to take place and will probably happen tomorrow.
Project Overview

A closer view of the new section connecting the spur to the siding switch.
Ready for Rock

That's all on the spur for now.

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Posted by 22dec on Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:16 AM

Thanks for the pictures and commentary Dan. I haven't been down by the bridge since early June. I usually don't get past the north side of town ( Leons or Tortilla Flats).

Looking forward to seeing your photos of the replacement of the bridge and yard. It's good that somebody (you) is documenting this for future railfans about the history of this area.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:42 PM

Thanks Don.  I swung by today and not much had changed, the spikes aren't yet all driven in but the derail was removed and I'm guessing they'll finish tomorrow.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Saturday, October 22, 2011 1:34 PM

22dec
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"...Thanks for the pictures and commentary Dan..."

. I haven't been down by the bridge since early June. I usually don't get past the north side of town ( Leons or Tortilla Flats).

Looking forward to seeing your photos of the replacement of the bridge and yard. It's good that somebody (you) is documenting this for future railfans about the history of this area.

Don

Thanks for sharing, Dan.    I used to pick up and delivery in and around that area;  Lots of industrial sidings in the old paper company properties.

 

 


 

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:00 PM

You're welcome!  I did stop by the yard on Friday and this morning (Saturday) and the Blended Spur is pretty much wrapped up.

Finishing touches are being put on after ballasting and spiking.
Finishing Touches

The first 5 cars are "on spot".  I bet a chain-link fence goes up and that should be it.
In Service

We'll see what's next for the Yard.  I'll keep my eyes and ears tuned...

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Posted by WC#3000 on Monday, October 24, 2011 8:27 PM

Thanks for the photos. Its nice to see an industry in Wisconsin putting some money into its rail shipping facilities versus scrapping an old spur and switching to trucks! Especially with the bad rep CN gets in by some. Keep up the good work. Yes

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Monday, October 24, 2011 10:02 PM

Thanks!

I bumped into a Blended employee today who knows I like railroads, etc.  She asked if I knew of their project...so I asked if I could have her email to send her a link to my folder of it on Flickr.  I guess the company's "brass" got to see them too...

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Friday, January 13, 2012 6:40 PM

Thought I'd drag this up from the cellar...

The City of Oshkosh tossed a minor monkey wrench in the plans, or so I heard.  The City wanted CN to do some serious and expensive reclamation and rehab work to the site of the RoW that was to be redone.  The RR elected to do what I feel is an ambitious modification: build the new bridge in the same RoW as the old one.  16 pilings will be drilled, poured, built and then the new sections lifted/floated in after the old ones are floated/lifted out.  I'll post pictures when I have something besides stuff hidden by fence and tarps.

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Posted by 22dec on Friday, January 13, 2012 6:53 PM

Dan, does this mean the line will be shut while the old bridge is taken out and the new one put in or am I reading your post wrong? 

Since I live in Appleton and get to Oshkosh quite often, this project is interesting to me. Thanks for your updates and pictures.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Saturday, January 14, 2012 10:32 AM

From the information I have there will be three "windows" when traffic will be shut down:
-One 12 hour window to replace the old south span with two new spans and a temporary track,
-One 12 hour window to replace the old north span with two new spans and a temporary track,
-One 40 hour window to replace the old center span with the new bascule lift section and the middle span.

Work is slated to be completed by May 2013.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:02 PM

Update time.  Admittedly...there hasn't been too many dramatic (to me anyway) changes as of yet.  However, finally having time and remembering to take the pictures let me have these.

Some structural steel I-beams have been delivered onsite.
Structural Steel Onsite

One of Kraemer's (contractor) barges with an almost-ready rebar frame for a new pillar.
Barge w/Rebar

A close up of the south pillars under the north span.
New North Pillars2

A close up of the north pillar's cofferdam under the north span.
New North Pillars 1

The pillars under the south span appear to be "done".
New South Pillars

More to come as I get it.  To see my entire folder of pictures, click here:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjwwo36U

Enjoy...and more to come as I can and things happen.

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Posted by 22dec on Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:49 AM

Thanks for the updated report and pictures. Looks like it is starting to get interesting. 

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Posted by samfp1943 on Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:53 PM

Thanks, Dan for the photos and update. Bow

Although it is a smaller project, still it has similarities to the Burlington (IA) Swing Bridge replacement done by BNSF on the Mississippi River Bridge. It too was accomplished by establishing windows for Construction Operations. It was some thing on the order of $124 Million Bucks.

 

 


 

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:23 AM

Sam,

I've no idea on the cost, though I'm sure it's not cheap.  I've put out some inquiries to see if I can find out about when the windows for span replacement will be.  That will be interesting to see, and I'll try to do a before/after shot on those if I can.

Work started this morning at 7 and they may be pouring concrete on a new pillar today.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Friday, September 7, 2012 8:43 AM

Time for an update.

Tuesday 9/4 the south span of the bridge was replaced.  Here are some shots I got of the process.

One section of the new south side waits on a barge.
New South Span Side View

 

Another view: New South Span End View

 

The last train (M347) to cross the bridge before modifications approaches. One span and a temporary span (not polished) are already in place. Last Train Across

 

The south span is lifted and floats back. Floating South Span

 

 Later that day, the south span can be seen behind and through the north span. Two's Company

 

The south span by itself on the barges. Old South Span

 

A view of the pieces of the south span, assembled and ready for trains. New South Span Closeup

 

A hint of the view to come.

  New Northward View

 

The whole project area. Humpty Dumpty

 

 

Enjoy. The north span is tentatively scheduled for replacement on Monday 9/10 says a source I have. Of course...there will be pictures.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Friday, September 7, 2012 11:01 AM

Dan ( CNW6000);

                                  Thanks for the update!  A project like that is quite a show to watch. You have to know there was plenty of organization and coordination in that project to put it together and bring in all those elements to accomplish traffic over the bridge in a relatively, short time span.

                               It took quite an effort to put together that photo album, and share it here.    You deserve a "Tip O' The Kromer Cap" !   NICE  JOB!  Bow  And  THANKS!

 

 


 

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Friday, September 7, 2012 2:44 PM

You're welcome Sam.  I enjoy knowing what's going on in my little corner of the world - and sharing is fun too.  This was all done in a 12 hour work window.  There will be another 12 hour window for the North Span...then a 40 hour window for the center.  That's supposed to happen in March 2013 if my source is right.

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, September 7, 2012 4:20 PM

I am all for progress, and of course the new bridge should last a long time, but gosh, I really like the looks of the old railroad bridges, not real sure why other than they have the heavy industry look about them…ah well, progress…

Thanks for the efforts to bring that here, looking forward to the rest of it.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:33 PM

Time for another update.

The mark where the rail will be cut on the north side:
Surgeon's Mark

A view of the barge and "lashings" that will raise the bridge up and float it out of position:
Tied Down

A closeup of the "anchor bolt" that hold's the north span to the shore:
North Anchor Bolt

The North span is gone:
Something's Missing

The new spans are getting lined up:
Line it Up

The two halves are halfway home:
Halfway Home

Finally in alignment (just not vertical):
Begin Tweaking

Panorama 1
New North Section Panorama 1

Panorama 2
New North Section Panorama 2

UP Power brings a coal train north on the new section the next day.
Uncle Pete

A few more shots can be seen at this link ( http://flic.kr/s/aHsjwwo36U ) and all pictures should be clickable.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Wednesday, April 3, 2013 10:21 AM

We're overdue for an update again...here's what the project looks like as of a couple days ago. I found a new perch to play with:
A New Perch


Flickr Link: http://flic.kr/p/e84Ykz

I should get more uploaded tonight.

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Posted by dknelson on Saturday, April 6, 2013 6:08 PM

(sigh) if only I had had a good or even merely adequate camera -- and the willingness to take plenty of pictures -- back when I was a student in Oshkosh 1970-74.  My handful of Kodak Brownie camera shots are all that I have.  There was a lot to see in Oshkosh back then -- including the last  months of C&NW passenger service.  You would be very entertained if only I had the shots of what I could see every day!

Even when I had a 35mm SLR I was far too parsimonious with my picture taking back.  Digtal photography has brought about an era of almost excessive documentation, but assuming that a way can be made to keep the images available as technology changes, we are living in a golden age of documentation and not just of railroads either.

Thanks for posting this helpful series on the Oshkosh bridge project.

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Posted by lenzfamily on Saturday, April 6, 2013 8:17 PM

Are  the original trusses being put into place in the new construction?

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Monday, August 19, 2013 3:20 PM

lenzfamily

Are  the original trusses being put into place in the new construction?

Charilie

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Charlie - sorry for the delay.  No, the old trusses are being cut up for scrap and hauled away. 

We're about 15.5 hours into the 36 hour work window to replace the center span.  The old center span was floated out last night/early this morning at around 0300 and the new center span is slated to be in place around 2100 tonight.  Trains are "supposed" to be able to roll on the new bridge by around noon on Wed 8/21.  Pics later as I get them uploaded and processed.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, August 19, 2013 5:03 PM

It's a shame that the old trusses couldn't have been floated somewhere and repurposed as a fixed span for a bike trail or some such.  It's too late, of course, for the other trusses that were in the bridge...and that design (Whipple?), more than any other, says C&NW!

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, August 19, 2013 6:20 PM

Whipple with a little of Warren & Haupt thrown in?

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:54 AM

CShaveRR

It's a shame that the old trusses couldn't have been floated somewhere and repurposed as a fixed span for a bike trail or some such.  It's too late, of course, for the other trusses that were in the bridge...and that design (Whipple?), more than any other, says C&NW!

 

No bike trails around for that to be an option.  I can't see the fine elected officials of Oshkosh approving of a "rusty eyesore" to be used on the oh-so-pretty riverwalk.  I do know the ends of the bridge with the "1899" signs are preserved at a secure site and those ends are supposed to be used for a trail of some kind.  I'll have to do some more digging as a quick search fo some notes and "other sources" isn't revealing what I recall.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:59 AM

mudchicken

Whipple with a little of Warren & Haupt thrown in?

 

Sir Mud,

In a copy of the original design for the 1899 bridge I saw a reference to "Whipple's Design" but nothing said "Haupt".  Doesn't mean it didn't happen though.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:22 AM

I had been keeping a fairly constant watch over the last couple (feels like more!) days on the bridge.  Here's what I wrote in several emails over the last day or so to some folks I promised an update.  It was not dull in the least.

"6 PM Update"
Work continues with excavator mounted jackhammers to demolish the old center span pilings/supports.  The piling is around 4' in diameter and appears to be 1.5" steel jacketed, rebar and I-beam reinforced concrete.  These things are not giving way easily and the contractors have been working on them with diamond blade saws, CAT-mounted tools, and at least two divers since this morning. 

 

"Midnight Update"
The new center span was moved from the shore cradle where it was assembled and floated nearly in place. I say nearly because the bridge suddenly started tipping off kilter up to 15 degrees or so high on the end away from the counterweights.  Folks started to shout and run to get away from the bridge in case it tipped into the river.  The bridge then hit a piling and came to rest with some of the end under the counterweight partially underwater.

More ballast was added to the lift end (away from the weight) and it was brought back level and tied into place. Currently a damage check is being done on all structure and gear assemblies as well as the piling that was hit and the barge/cribbing.

Scary stuff. The piling that was tough to remove is being left in place for now so the bridge can be installed.

 

"530 AM Update"
Lots can happen in almost 5 hours.

The new center span is nearly in alignment.  Apparently there wasn't any significant damage done when it was being lifted earlier (see the midnite report) and the workers currently have the bridge about 4' high yet...lowering it very slowly into position.  Pretty impressive process to watch.  It will be neat to catch the first train over it...and watch it lift for the first time.  It's gonna happen today...but when?  "Sources" say around noon-ish.
 
The last new section of bridge (non-lifting section" just north of the new center span is about 4" high and being lowered into alignment.  All the hand/guard rails along the non-lifting sections of the bridge that were removed so the center span could be floated in are now reinstalled. 

 

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Saturday, August 24, 2013 1:57 AM

Well kids...the process is "almost done".  The bridge is in and working as intended and the only things left to do are to finish removing the few sections of piling remaining, torch the old center section up (sad, but hey - it's life) and then clean up the barges/equipment/sites.  I also noticed that the old incandescent signal lamps on the bridge are gone...they are LEDs and there is a light (lunar "L" indicated "Locked") for the bridge.  The lamp was there before the project but I never saw it lit. 

FWIW I plan on doing a video slideshow (uploaded to Flickr/YouTube) once I have all the pictures/sequences I want...or need...but I have NOT posted all of the shots I have to the web.

Here's a few shots though.

Old bridge closed:
Sunrise

Old bridge open:
Another Sign of Spring...Gone Now

Old bridge with train:
CN 2420 South as L576

New bridge closed:
Daylight View

New bridge open:
Reach

New bridge with train (very first one across):
First Train Thru!

Here's a link to my set of pictures of the bridge project.
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjwwo36U

Enjoy.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:01 PM

NICE JOB, DAN!

   As have i  mentioned before, I used to run all over that area picking up and delivering freight. ( Many years back.)

You've showed us a fascinating story of how that bridge replacement has gone on there.    It is quite an area of manufacturing and food producers.   Those rail lines were all over the place back then.

  Thank You for sharing this photo story with us. Thumbs UpThumbs Up

 

 


 

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