CP Rail Multimark

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CP Rail Multimark
Posted by Mike Balla jr on Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:48 PM

I have a bit of an odd question, but the yellow cabooses that CP Rail used, was the multitask on one end supposed to face a particular direction.

(Should it be closer to the train, further from the train, or was it irreverent.)

 

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:00 AM

A lot of people thought it was irreverent...David P. Morgan called it "Meaningless Mod".

(I believe it was also irrelevant--if it weren't, the mark would have been on the left or right end of both sides, instead of the A or B end.)

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Posted by Kootenay Central on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 4:43 AM
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:54 AM

The Multimark could grow on you after a while.  It also looked good on containers and trailers (both CP and Smith Transport) and on the fin of a DC-8.  Never saw it on the funnel of a steamship, though.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:25 AM

Kootenay Central:

   WOW!   

Somebody needs to put that in a Wikipedia entry! 

               Good JOB!

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Posted by AgentKid on Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:23 PM

I just quickly scanned through my copies of "CP Tracks" magazine, and from what I see the best explanation I can come up with is the multi-mark on centre cupola wide vision cabooses is on both sides on the chimney or stove end of the car. The arrows pointing to the centre of the car. I'm sure there is a more technical name for it, but there you go. The end cupola cabooses had the multi-mark on the cupola end.

That is not surprising as there were no windows or other major obstructions to mask over at that end. This thinking also applied to repaints on diesels. The multi-marks were adjusted for size so masking time was reduced and paint could be applied more expeditiously.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:17 PM

    I'm displaying my ignorance here, but what is this multi-mark you're talking about?    Does anyone have a picture available?

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Posted by AgentKid on Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:39 PM

Canadian Pacific in 1968 decided to have one logo to identify all of their operations on rail, trucks, ships, and airplanes. They developed the so called multi-mark to identify themselves.

In the linked photo, it is the white semi circle with the black arrowhead on the rear sides of the diesels. These colours vary depending on the operation involved. It is the shapes that remain the same.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=267606&nseq=286

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, August 26, 2011 12:07 PM

After CP Air was sold to Pacific Western and became Canadian Airlines International, they had their own version of the Multimark:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Canadian-Airlines/Boeing-737-217-Adv/1419835/ 

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Posted by tatans on Sunday, August 28, 2011 1:49 PM

CSSHEGEWISCH

The Multimark could grow on you after a while.  It also looked good on containers and trailers (both CP and Smith Transport) and on the fin of a DC-8.  Never saw it on the funnel of a steamship, though.

CP ships used it extensivley, it was black, white and GREEN, looked great on the "Empress of Canada"

CPRail had some trouble with new logos on their diesels on a commemorative year when the right side never matched the left side, looked rather odd, it was some kind of scriptive gold lettering, guess they figured you could not see both sides at once eh?

 

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Posted by trainboyH16-44 on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:19 AM

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Thank You.

Now if only he'd keep his incredibly well worded and informative replies on the page!

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Posted by Kootenay Central on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 5:04 PM
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Posted by Ulrich on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 8:43 PM

Kootney..most interesting reflections. I too remember the CP going back to the late 60s. In rural Quebec it was all MLW power painted in the old CP maroon and grey with increasing numbers of the action red engines mixed in. What I most remember are the coaling and water towers. Steam was gone, but all the infrastructure was still in place. And the train stations...passenger trains were increasingly rare, but the stations were still in good repair, with beautifully finished oak wood benches and floors. Absolutely lovely...so much nicer than the dirty bus depots that came in to replace train service. Progress? Sometimes I wonder.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Tuesday, September 10, 2019 7:52 PM

AgentKid

That is not surprising as there were no windows or other major obstructions to mask over at that end. This thinking also applied to repaints on diesels. The multi-marks were adjusted for size so masking time was reduced and paint could be applied more expeditiously.

End-cab switchers could get it either on the side of the cab or on the hood just ahead of the cab, of course adjusting for size as you said.  And of course it faces toward the rear of the unit:

http://www.trainweb.org/railpix/miscpix/cp8156s1-11-2-98.jpg

https://railpictures.net/photo/709466/

I can almost smell the paint on 7059!

But maybe the switchers should have been given spooky ghosts instead.... ...seeing as they chase cars around mazes of yard tracks!

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