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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 9:12 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68
You can always tell a cop at a hazmat incident - he's got powdered sugar around his eye.


It used to be powdered sugar...things have gotten uglier since Krispy-Kremes proliferated!

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 9:09 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp

I am suprised so many railfans have NAERGs.

I'm also a volunteer fire chief. Never leave home without it.

Also practice the "rule of thumb" for Hazmat - if my thumb covers it, I'm probably far enough away.

We like to say that the cops use the donut hole rule. If they can see the entire incident through the donut hole, they're far enough away. You can always tell a cop at a hazmat incident - he's got powdered sugar around his eye.

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 6:20 AM
Ah - thank you for all the info. Just the first time I had seen that type of notification. Driver was just wondering how they kept it hot for the ride - now I can tell him.

Ericsp - I have several books compliments of Houston Ed and Brother Carl! I don't go anywhere w/o them. (it's hard to train watch, read your several manuals and write all at the same time! Train watching is not for sissies!)

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, July 19, 2004 11:58 PM
Jen, you can relax...we don't consider those cars to be "dangerous" at all.

The stuff is loaded hot, and, since the cars are well insulated, the load will stay pretty hot. (You won't feel the heat when you're near one, though.) Steam may be required to unload it; this is usually pumped through heater coils on the cars themselves (again, those are usually well concealed by insulation).

Lots of stuff to be more concerned about in other tanks!

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Posted by ericsp on Monday, July 19, 2004 11:34 PM
I am suprised so many railfans have NAERGs.

"No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld)

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Posted by ericsp on Monday, July 19, 2004 11:32 PM
Most of the tankcars that come through here that have 3257 are carrying asphalt. I have also seen petroleum wax (If you use Duraflame fire logs, the wax in there was shipped by rail) and "FINGER LICKING GOOD FATTY ACID". Okay, I made the "finger licking good" part up.

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, July 19, 2004 9:54 PM
Gulf & Mississippi was/is relatively new...A castoff of ICG and later MidSouth and now a ward of KCS...It came out of old GM& O lines (Gulf Mobile & Ohio = G&O + M&O)

...ship the Alphabet soup to the diner.!!!!

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, July 19, 2004 9:30 PM
The guide for it is 128, which is for flammable liquids. Asphalt would be a good possibility.

Step One using the NAERG (orange book) is to find out what the substance is. Step two is to look up the guide number and find out how to handle an incident involving it. What's in the ERG covers about the first 10 minutes of the incident. Usually it says skedaddle.

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Posted by ericsp on Monday, July 19, 2004 9:18 PM
Most likely asphalt.

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, July 19, 2004 12:18 PM
This was the placard on the tanker.

I looked in my book on what this indicates and this is what I found:

"Elevated Temperature Liquid n.o.s. @ or above 100 degrees C (212F) and below it's flash point".....

? - is it heated and kept heated? Is it dangerous? Should Millie back up another 50 feet more?

AND

one more - saw a G & M RR Boxcar - what is the G & M (I am sure it is a fallen flag by now - just an interesting item)

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