August 2004 - great issue

[adrianspeeder]

Just got Augusts issue, wow, good stuff. Now I remember why I pay money. That 4.95 is the best money i spend.

Exellent "From the Editor" Mr. Hemphill. That must of been tough to write. Very touching to anyone that likes trains, or is facing a hard decision to make.

SAAAALUTE (from adrianspeeder standing at attention)

oh, and everyone look carefully at page 6, and note all the names that are there.
(nice one E.B.)

Will post more as i read more

Adrianspeeder

[Anonymous]

I HAVEN'T EVEN GOT MINE YET IN THE MAIL YET!
[bow]BNSF[bow]

[Anonymous]

Nice one Ed, I didn't even put 2 and 2 together when I read the comment, I should have especially known when you stated your position in Houston.

[Anonymous]

Some interesting stuff in this one. Industrial growth may bring some new traffic to the rails...


LC

[Noah Hofrichter]

I'm still waiting on mine too. Got My Model Railroader on The 1st, but still waiting on the arrivle of the TRAINS.

Noah

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

Some interesting stuff in this one. Industrial growth may bring some new traffic to the rails...


LC

Yes, things are most definately looking up for the railroads in the next couple of years, it will be exciting to see what happens!

[Anonymous]

I received my issue Friday. Last night I took a quick look through it. It does look like a good issue. It also "hits" close to home for Adrian.

After reading this thread I had to check out page 6, just as Adrian suggested. I usually read most of the whole magazine but just didn't get to it yet. But when I checked out page 6, low and behold a familiar name appeared.

Now how did that happen? [;)]

[cherokee woman]

Gee, you all are making the August issue sound VERY INTERESTING!!
We haven't gotten Walt's copy yet in the mail. [:(] Maybe it'll come in the
mail Tuesday or Wednesday.

"ANTICIPATION" [:D]

[Modelcar]

....This month my copy arrived on the 3rd...not bad. And the Horseshoe Curve article is right down my alley. My home area is roughly 40 miles from there. So I've been to the Curve quite a few times and understand what it used to be and even the war time traffic situation and the critical part it played in getting the war material over the mountain, etc....First trip to ride around it was 1942 and still remember it vividly. Later rode around it as a school boy heading to Washington and later as a GI going to the Orient.....Have visited it in recent years too...so the article hit home for me. Thanks, TRAINS.

[88gta350]

I thought the issue was a good one as well. l liked the article on the loads of the Rio Grande. A lot of information there that you usually don't think about or could get anywhere else. All in all, I'm pleased.

[adrianspeeder]

Excellent work on the Rio Grande Commodites Mr. Hemphill. I read it twice already. How much work was that. Good work.

Adrianspeeder

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder

Excellent work on the Rio Grande Commodites Mr. Hemphill. I read it twice already. How much work was that. Good work.

Adrianspeeder

The pictures of the commodities themselves was a really nice touch, you certainly don't see that anywhere else.... it really put things into better perspective.

[Anonymous]

This was a good issue, I read the whole thing straight through in about 2 hours this afternoon. I really did like the Rio Grande piece (if you look at the map on pg. 29, I live about 2 miles from the powerplant north of Denver named "Valmont", the Boulder plant), right in my backyard.

[daveklepper]

All of the issues Mark has edited have been excellent and there isn't any reading material that I enjoy and am stimulated by more. This was as tops as any have been. But the troop-train story makes me ask the question: Why has not the National Defense angle been raised by fans, the industry, and the magazines, concerning the unfair treatment given the railroads, and the far greater subsidies given to all other passenger transportation than are given to Amtrak and public transit? Far greater subsidies when you look at the whole picture. Could the railroad industry begin to do anything like the job it did in WWII and WWI? Suppose North Amnerica had to fight a war and be energy independent at the same time? It this a complete impossibility?

[FJ and G]

why is Mark leaving? He's the best editor Trains ever got & I've been subscribing since the 60s. I hope we can get someone half as good as him; but I kinda doubt it.

Dave Vergun

[cherokee woman]

Locomutt's copy came in the mail this afternoon. I have thumbed through it, and
it looks like it's filled with very good articles. I've gotten half way through Mark's
article on the commodities. Locomutt has not even had a chance to get through
it yet because he was [zzz]

[Noah Hofrichter]

Finally, got it today, the 6th. I think that's the latest I've ever gotten it. It is a very good issue, from what I have read and the glancing I have done. I've got to get off now so I can read it.

Noah

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by daveklepper

All of the issues Mark has edited have been excellent and there isn't any reading material that I enjoy and am stimulated by more. This was as tops as any have been. But the troop-train story makes me ask the question: Why has not the National Defense angle been raised by fans, the industry, and the magazines, concerning the unfair treatment given the railroads, and the far greater subsidies given to all other passenger transportation than are given to Amtrak and public transit? Far greater subsidies when you look at the whole picture. Could the railroad industry begin to do anything like the job it did in WWII and WWI? Suppose North Amnerica had to fight a war and be energy independent at the same time? It this a complete impossibility?

Chances are they won't get called upon like they would in WWI and WWII, at least not in the passenger sense, they would all go by plane nowadays, or bus, both ways are faster nowadays than they were back during WWI and WWII.

[locomutt]

QUOTE: Originally posted by cherokee woman

Locomutt's copy came in the mail this afternoon. I have thumbed through it, and
it looks like it's filled with very good articles. I've gotten half way through Mark's
article on the commodities. Locomutt has not even had a chance to get through
it yet because he was [zzz]

I had to PRY IT from her hands.[:)]

I've not really had a chance to get all the way
through it,but it is totally interesting.

Ed,great letter,but nobody said Mookie wrote one also.[:)]

And Mark,I'm very sorry that is going to be your last Editorial.
I've looked forward to them when I get my copy of "Trains"[:(][:(][:(][:(][:(]

[Modelcar]

Ed...congratulations on being published in this months Trains.

[Anonymous]

It would be difficult to replicate the job done in WW I or WW II. Passenger equipment no longer exists in sufficient quantities, track no longer goes many places it once did and mainlines are nearly at capacity with the shrinkage of the network. Our heavy industrial capacity is much smaller than it once was and weapons are far more complex requiring a much better trained fighting force. Thus, building and growing the armed services will be more difficult. Also, wars are much shorter now and it is less likely the U.S. would have time to build into the war like we did in both world wars.

LC

[edblysard]

Thanks Quentin,
But its funny, I like Mookies letter better than my own!
If you guys read back a little in the archives, you can find Mookies letter in a slightly different form, and it generated a lot of responses!!!.


Ed

QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

Ed...congratulations on being published in this months Trains.

[Modelcar]

...Yea, I believe I remember reading that....and if I'm remembering correctly, it was good.

[cstaats]

I did not want to read this until I had a chance to look through my Issue. The mail is slow to the Pacific Northwest. It looks good. Mark great way to leave the stage making us want more.

[Anonymous]

I FIANLLY GOT MINE YESTERDAY 07-06-04,LATE.

[Anonymous]

Would have liked to see multi-train shots on Horseshoe like the ones published years ago in Railpace and in Dan Cupper's softcover book. That aerial view of two trains side by side doesn't count.

[FJ and G]

I'd like to find out more information on those 2 secret spurs that went off the horseshoe curve. The one is mentioned as closing in the 1930s but not the other. Is it still active? Also, there were some fine pictures but very little verbiage to go with the history of the curve. Some real railroaders' perspective perhaps.

[Kathi Kube]

Hey, all.

There actually are three forum members whose names appear in our pages this month. Give up? Check out pages 80 and 81. Props to a very cool individual who accepted my edits with maturity and grace that rivals many folks many times his age. (No, I won't tell. You have to go find it for yourself.)

We're glad you're enjoying the issue; I'll pass your thoughts on to the rest of the guys here who make it all happen.

Have a nifty day!
Kathi

[Modelcar]

...Both spurs have been removed decades ago.
I agree...Pictures were great and I too thought more written material of history and operation, etc...about the area would have been included in the article. What's in the article is great but a more thorough discription of it would have been nice.

[espeefoamer]

The August Trains is one of the best in recent years.The PRR is one of my favorite railroads, and I love mountain railroading,so I especially enjoyed the Horseshoe Curve article.I spend a lot of time watching trains on the Santa Fe surf line, so this article was of special interest to me.Also the piece on D&RGW commodities was very informative. You have a real winner here.[:)]