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Anonymous
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April 2003
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Link to the past
Posted by
Anonymous
on Thursday, May 27, 2004 3:13 PM
A friend sent me a link to some
"Remarkable forms of public transport"
. Would you believe a
steam powered 0-1-2 ?
How about a
electric steam engine?
Then there is the
twin steam engine
!
[8D]
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espeefoamer
Member since
November 2003
From: West Coast
4,122 posts
Posted by
espeefoamer
on Thursday, May 27, 2004 5:22 PM
As to the electric steam engine, the pantograph is probably used to operate the signals and grade crossing protection.The Pacific Electric always coupled an electric loco to any steamer they operated for the same reason.
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Hugh Jampton
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September 2003
From: Southern Region now, UK
820 posts
Posted by
Hugh Jampton
on Thursday, May 27, 2004 5:46 PM
I'd a thought the pantograph was for electric train heating
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Anonymous
Member since
April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Thursday, May 27, 2004 10:21 PM
Actually, the PE diesels had trolleys and not pans. Needed them because the track occupancy ckts were tripped via switches up on the wire, a standard practice on interurban and street railways. No trolley, no see ya! PE never used pans.
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M636C
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January 2002
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Posted by
M636C
on Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:03 PM
The pantograph fitted steam locomotive was used in Switzerland during World War II when there was a serious shortage of coal. Electric power fed by hydro electric plants was still available, and this loco was converted with a large immersion heater in the boiler powered directly from the SBB (Swiss Federal Railways) 15 kV 16.66Hz overhead line. This generated steam which allowed the locomotive to switch unwired sidings, and it just had to return to the wires and raise the pantograph when the pressure got too low. It was a form of energy storage, and the loco did not have to stay under the wires when working, just to top up the boiler pressure. It was converted back to coal burning in 1946.
Peter
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Anonymous
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April 2003
305,205 posts
Posted by
Anonymous
on Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:09 PM
Durning WW2, coal was a hard commodity and oil was being reserved for military uses, some railroads attempted to use Electricity to heat the boiler instead of the firebox. they could burn coal in the firebox or use the overhead lines to heat the boiler, so were remarkable attempts for the time.
There were many other examples pre-war and post war in europe for various reasons also employed the Electric-steam system. Most Notably, the fact that after the war, Coal and oil were depleted in Europe, forcing them to rely on other means.
Jay
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