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Posted by Supermicha on Sunday, May 2, 2004 6:51 AM
Hey Peter, thank you very much for this couple of information. It helps a lot.

Have a nice sunday...
Michael Kreiser www.modelrailroadworks.de
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Posted by M636C on Saturday, May 1, 2004 10:44 PM
The BM&LP and Deseret Western rosters are in the "2000 Official Locomotive Rosters", and possibly later editions, but Texas Utilities, Muskingum and Navajo are not in the 2000 edition.

The Deseret western roster shows four units, the second (higher numbered) two being built in 1983 so these are probably ex NdeM units.

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Posted by M636C on Saturday, May 1, 2004 10:35 PM
Michael,

Photos of all the locomotives you list are in "The Contemporary Diesel Spotter's Guide - Second Edition" published by Kalmbach in early 1995. Unfortunately, this information has not been included in later "Guides". Ulrich has a copy - perhaps he'll photocopy it for you. You might be able to find a copy on Amazon.com.

Basically, the two Muskingum locomotives are very similar to the Pennsylvania(PC/Conrail) E44, and there is a website providing drawings of PRR electrics (try Google).

The seven Texas Utilities locomotives have cabs based on the GE passenger electrics sent to Taiwan, with a frame and hood similar to a B23-7.

The Black Mesa and Lake Powell bought six new E60C locomotives, the only buyer of them. Models were available from Bachmann and Walthers, and plans were printed in RMC about twenty years ago (I have that copy, but I'd have to search for it). These were tall, box like single ended locomotives.

Deseret Western bought two E60C-2 locomotives. These were double end units that looked like taller versions of Amtrak E60CH locomotives. I don't know where plans might have been published.

Navajo Mine purchased two ex-Amtrak E60CH locomotives, and fitted frames to raise the pantographs to suit a higher contact wire location. Again, I think RMC published drawings, and Bachmann made a model (in original form). The book above has a photo of the Navajo locomotive.

The wild card in all of this is the Nacional de Mexico, who bought 39 E60C-2 locomotives very similar to the Deseret Western units. They then abandoned the electrification, and these units have been recently finding their way onto the BM&LP, Deseret Western and Navajo Mine railroads, because they are available at low cost. I don't know where, and how many, have made this move.

Trains covered the BM&LP and Navajo Mine railroads in the October 2000 issue, page 51 "The Lonely Railroads of the Four Corners". The coal cars are shown, but not well. The Navajo photo does show the changes to the ex-Amtrak units. I think the BM&LP cars were shown reasonably well in the Railroad Model Craftsman article.

I hope this is some help!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 1, 2004 1:17 PM
Gotta try google
http://www.google.com

Try looking by clicking on the "images" tab and search for just pictures alone.

I find it to be the best search engine out there for anything.
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Electric Operations
Posted by Supermicha on Saturday, May 1, 2004 6:13 AM
Hi.

I hope somebody can help me.

I need informations, photos, rosters, blue prints and so on of electric locomotives from the following railroads:

Black Mesa and Lake Powell Railroad
Deseret Western Railroad
Navajo Mine Railroad
Muskingum Railroad
Texas Utilitys Railraod

Also detail photos of the freight cars would be fine.

Thanks and best regards,
Michael Kreiser www.modelrailroadworks.de

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