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QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz wabash1 & tree68-- that was some of the funniest collection of railroad & other terminologies mixed together I have ever seen. I loved it! [tup]
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QUOTE: Originally posted by gnenjnj This forum to me is a tool that I use in the field, I scan and pick out the subjects that either interest or pertain to me and the work that I do. Those who are trying to make a particular point have every right to do so, and then I may exercise my right to skip over it. Accident opinions usually come from some sort of experience, and I will take these opinions and either share them with my seasoned co-workers or file them away in my grey matter as {another thing to watch out for} More times than not, one of my co-workers will express the same thought that I have read here in these postings. So I hope that no one will change their posting habits, your opinions may save someone from getting hurt or worse some day, myself included. Sincerely A shiny new A/C
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QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard Psssst..anyone want to break it to them that this is a electronic barbershop/coffee house? But instead of going to the corner coffee house, you go to your computer desk.
QUOTE: Originally posted by ironhorseman When I heard about the Amtrak wreck in Mississippi on Tuesday night I predicted to myself that someone won't be able to resist the temptation and will want to take credit for being the very 1st person to start a topic on it. It happend around 6pm and sure enough at 9pm and 2am two topics about it had already been started. I don't know if anyone else has taken note of it, but it seems every time there's a derailment somewhere someone is always posting a new topic on it. It's as if there were some kind of contest to be the first person to break any bad news as soon as possible after the incident. And then lots of other people chime in about what THEY THINK the cause is and who THEY THINK is to blame and how THEY THINK this new derailment will adversely affect railroad integrity with public relations. And in a time when we're a full-fledged war with terrorism the common speculation is the wreck or accident was some kind of terror act. It's all opinions and politics. Folks, this isn't necessary. It's nothing more than coffee shop/barber shop/knitting club/etc gossip. I didn't come here to see a bunch of people spread rumors and speculation on something they don't know anything about only to have a general consensus JUMP to a premeditated conclusion that is entirely false, misleading, or inaccurate. If I wanted to do that I'd turn on CNN or an ESPN sports-talk show. Some people are so damned determined that every accident was a result of terrorism. Some are little, just a little, more rational in saying that the accident was some kind of mechanical or structural failure, but then fault by saying they know specifically what caused it. Others do a good job trying to stop the guessing game by explaining of all different kinds of scenarios that can cause an accident and nothing can be known for sure at this time, but nonetheless others ignore that advice and go right on back to speculating. The points are: 1) it is not a productive area of discussion and 2) you don't know for sure. The investigators are at the scene of this latest Amtrak wreck and it may be days, weeks, or months before they will know the exact cause. They have to conduct interviews, examine the scene, and research the history of the section of track before they can even think about drawing a conclusion. Think about the shuttle Columbia's accident. The media picked up on the idea that the foam punctured a hole in the craft and that hole caused the problem upon re-entry, and even though NASA found this to be true it would have been very irresponsible to jump to this conclusion with out conducting a very thorough investigation to prove this. If they hadn't they could overlook something else very important. And all this goes for the rumor mergers, too. You don't what railroads are going to merge and when. To try and predict a merger or the cause of an accident is just like gambling. How do you know for certain UP and CSX (as an example) are going to merge? You don't. Just pick two railroads, predict they'll merge, and if they do were right, but you weren't right. You didn't know. You gambled on the chance that it might happen and it did. All your speculation on what the cause of the Amtrak wreck in Mississippi is is just that: speculation. Odds are somebody's speculation will be right, but it's not based on any evidence or anything other than probability. (As I've asked before and never got an answer too: what goes on in a merger? How does it happen? What takes places? What are the logistics? To me that would be more interesting and productive than hearing "so-and-so will merge, based on circumstantial evidence, and everybody will lose! blah blah blah") If you want to be the first person to bring people breaking news may I suggest you apply for a job to some news organization? Otherwise I want to urge everyone to please resist the temptation of being the first in line on this kind of stuff and resist adding to gossip. No one's getting credit or being the first to break the news. Or is that what most people here want? Rumors and gossip? Nothing can be learned from rumors and gossip except the character of the person spreading it. Sorry if I sound berating, but I just felt like something had to be said.
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