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[?]Rules for Caboose First Operation

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[?]Rules for Caboose First Operation
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 19, 2004 9:25 AM
Hey railroader guys and gals, would someone discuss the rules, etc., for the caboose being used in reference to backing moves? I just saw a pic of a bay window caboose being used in such operation and made me wonder about it.

In the past (not very recent though) I have seen employees standing on the platform as a back up move was taking place. Also is there a difference between a back up move of a caboose and a passenger car?
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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, March 19, 2004 9:56 AM
You have an:

-operable brake pipe handle
-operable whistle (in the air line)
-operable light/flag
-operable radio

go!, just like any other reverse move, except now you have a safer platform to stand on.
Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, March 19, 2004 10:52 AM
I remember the whistles on the cabooses of the C&O and GTW when I was growing up in Michigan. C&NW waycars, however, didn't have whistles. I was protecting a backup move on a freight once, and found that out the hard way...by dumping the air!

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Posted by john lea on Friday, March 19, 2004 11:10 AM
In working on the RR there are thousands of rules and regulations that guides one through the daily routines of just getting from point a to point b.
Reverse movements, backing moves, wheather in a yard or on the main lines are strictly governed. Before you can reverse you must check with the powers to be, yardmaster, train dispacher & others involved in your reverse move. You must also have the items mentioned by mudchicken. John 4449er on west coast S.J. Div.
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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, March 19, 2004 2:51 PM
On CSX what were once known as Cabooses are refered to in the rules as 'Shoving Platforms'.

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Posted by Dough on Friday, March 19, 2004 4:52 PM
Their is actually one of those CSX baywindow that is used for reversing movements daily here in Athens, GA. I posted pics of it not to long ago.

It really is nice to see them still in service![;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 19, 2004 5:23 PM
Thry all need whisles going backwards

DOGGY

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 19, 2004 5:27 PM
Doggy, email me please.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 27, 2004 2:37 AM
I thought I would bring this back for one more go around. Hopefully we can get a few more comments and learn a little more.
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Posted by Rick Gates on Saturday, March 27, 2004 3:14 AM
In addition to the eqipment already reviewed and, aside from the rules governing, Some bay widowed cabs had the "Conductors valve" by the bay wondow. This is a means of making a service application of the air for braking however; once used to stop, the air must be dumped and the handle reset to continue. For passenger cars and for long distance backing without a caboose on freight, there is a backup hose. These are usually 6-15 ft. long and attach to the rear hose on the car, angle **** opened and when in a safe position to ride can be used to reduce the air and make a brake application. Backup hoses also have a whistle.[:-^]
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Posted by Rick Gates on Saturday, March 27, 2004 3:19 AM
Now, do I call the mispelling the "Doggy" effect? CSX Syndrome? Or, what it is. I missed my mistakes until after I clicked submit. Typo-man misstrikes again!
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