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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 6, 2004 4:19 PM
Now maybe UP needs go to college's to recruite

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, April 6, 2004 12:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Uniheads, chocolate cupcake wars, and mudchickens, along with a typing cat?
Need it get any more weird?

Ed[:D]
Uniheads are very scarce and you hardly find a mudchicken any more, but the rest is just normal, everyday stuff........

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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, April 6, 2004 7:49 AM
Uniheads, chocolate cupcake wars, and mudchickens, along with a typing cat?
Need it get any more weird?

Ed[:D]

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, April 6, 2004 6:26 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Doggy

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Weird?

You dont know the half of it !!!!

Ed

SO what's the Story?

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Yeah Ed - which weird story are you going to tell - ? [;)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 5, 2004 8:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Weird?

You dont know the half of it !!!!

Ed

SO what's the Story?

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Posted by pmsteamman on Monday, April 5, 2004 7:53 PM
Not a problem on the Detroit Division of CSX. Crews have just the right amount of time at home to do the family thing and still make a good paycheck.
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Posted by UPTRAIN on Monday, April 5, 2004 6:19 PM
It ain't a midwest problem.....at least here........we have crews all the time..........rarely park a train.

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Posted by edblysard on Monday, April 5, 2004 6:03 PM
Weird?

You dont know the half of it !!!!

Ed

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 5, 2004 4:10 PM
You mean Mookie is an Locomotive enginner? This is weird

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Posted by dharmon on Monday, April 5, 2004 12:45 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

Mookie - reporting for engineer duty! And she has ethic fur!


That's sounds painful....you should see a doc.
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Posted by vsmith on Monday, April 5, 2004 12:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by StillGrande

QUOTE: Originally posted by broncoman

Be careful.....UPs got quite a few remotes on the west coast. I can just see a GP15-1 remote running on the point with 3 SD70Ms behind it, being run from a cubicle in India...If there is a way I am sure UP would try.



You think there is any connection with all those radio control units UP just ordered?


If they wont hire engineers why would they hire a desk jockey in bangladesh? Hell, they'll just park a PC tied into the controls on the front hood of that big diesel, load a programmed floppy disk press "enter" and jump off!

And away we go !!!!!

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NYT -- Traffic Congestion Chokes UP
Posted by eastside on Monday, April 5, 2004 11:36 AM
Here's an article in the NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/31/business/31rail.html
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Posted by Mookie on Monday, April 5, 2004 6:45 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Garwood Heine

If the Railroads don't have enough crews to move the freight, mabe they should consider hiring senior citizens, who have an excellent work ethic.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 4, 2004 3:48 PM
In a call to *** Davison about these problems we got a message said this *** Davison Chairmen of Union Pacific Railroad was on a dead of hours stack train in Arizona near Gila Bend and we will not be back until the Railroad can hire 5,000 emplyoees

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 22, 2004 3:52 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by n_stephenson

We're short of available crews on CSX as well. I've been training in Brewer yard in Danville, IL for five weeks now. Heck, they wanna mark me up now if they could! Our extraboards are even at their last ropes. There are 15 people marked up on the extraboard, and 14 of them are on jobs. The only available person just tied up and has to rest 8 hrs and he'll be first out!!

With CSX that's no surprise

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Posted by StillGrande on Monday, March 22, 2004 2:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by broncoman

Be careful.....UPs got quite a few remotes on the west coast. I can just see a GP15-1 remote running on the point with 3 SD70Ms behind it, being run from a cubicle in India...If there is a way I am sure UP would try.



You think there is any connection with all those radio control units UP just ordered?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 21, 2004 10:34 PM
We're short of available crews on CSX as well. I've been training in Brewer yard in Danville, IL for five weeks now. Heck, they wanna mark me up now if they could! Our extraboards are even at their last ropes. There are 15 people marked up on the extraboard, and 14 of them are on jobs. The only available person just tied up and has to rest 8 hrs and he'll be first out!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 21, 2004 8:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jeaton

Doggy-Sorry. My son is upset, too. Ooh, did I say UPSET?

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? If he's upset about the problems I am not pleased if UP invested millions in capacity whey are having problems DAVISON AND CLOWNS STRUCK AGAIN[:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)][:o)]
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Posted by jeaton on Sunday, March 21, 2004 8:03 PM
Doggy-Sorry. My son is upset, too. Ooh, did I say UPSET?

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 21, 2004 1:42 PM
Eugene Yards is having more problems now trains are backed up they are also still in Roseville

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Posted by broncoman on Sunday, March 21, 2004 10:18 AM
The beauty of being a CEO is that when you go up in front of the board and the shareholders you blame the failure on middle management since they are not present to defend themselves...and usually in a shareholders meeting they only answer the questions they want to, they even have some people removed whom they feel are starting to ask the wrong questions.
It would seem that most CEOs seem to suffer an acute form of a GOD complex.
Any UP employees hearing anything from the inside, i'm sure you aren't hearing from your CEO that there was a "miscalculation" or anything like that!
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Posted by edblysard on Saturday, March 20, 2004 10:08 PM
Trust me, down here in the swap, they have them parked in every siding they can find.
The same empty autorack train has been sitting at Galena Junction for four days, no crews to move it.
If it isnt a top priority train, they park it and get to it when they can.
Bulk, unit and grain trains run first, then everything else.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 20, 2004 10:03 PM
If the Railroads don't have enough crews to move the freight, mabe they should consider hiring senior citizens, who have an excellent work ethic.
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Posted by traingeek087 on Saturday, March 20, 2004 9:41 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wabash1

QUOTE: Originally posted by rrnut282

Must be a left coast problem. I haven't seen any parked trains on NS.


your not around here on the weekends . plenty of parked trains. around here 2 trains and 1 crew what do they do.....combo them






No it's simple, get out and push.
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Posted by traingeek087 on Saturday, March 20, 2004 9:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by StillGrande

Maybe they can send all the loco driving jobs to India.




That's pathetic. DON'T YOU SEE IT'S KILLING OUR COUNTRY?!!!!
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Posted by Saxman on Saturday, March 20, 2004 5:03 PM
The whole crew shortage problem with the UP and other railroads plays like a tragic comedy. It's tragic that upper management has been so slow to recognize the fact that they were reaching a critical shortage of men. Comic because lower management predicted it. It's tragic that upper management did not "belive" those in lower management as to what the needs were in their respective terminals. Comic again because the men saw it coming. I know from my Road Foreman days, that informing the "uppers" about the impending shortage of men was an excersise in futility. Even after showing them the average attrition rate for the previous five years plus the number who could go with the new retirement was presented all I ever got was a polite; "Thank You." The General Manager said to me: "We do not hire people or promote engineers until we need them." My reply was: "When you discover you need these people it's too late." Somehow I did not understand the "intricacy" of operating a business and why I am back pulling a throttle today. (Being an engineer IS an honorable profession.) It also reminds me of when I was teaching school in the eighties and the elementary principal reported that there were 120 kindergardeners signed up for the next year. The superintendent all but called the principal a liar as his "studies" showed that there would NEVER be a class that large as all future classes would be in the 50 to 60 range. Guess what? For the next five years there were kindergarden calsses in the 90-100 range. That district is still absorbing those non students as they move through the system.

So what does it take for the "uppers" to acknowledge there is a shortage? Trains dead everywhere. Plain and simple. Of course the taste of humble pie as you, the CEO, tell the stockholders and the board of directors you screwed up is a hell of a motivator too!
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Posted by citidude on Saturday, March 20, 2004 2:58 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by rrnut282

Must be a left coast problem. I haven't seen any parked trains on NS.


I've seen NS trains parked on the Pittsburgh line 1-2 miles east of the Amtrak Station. But I dont know if the cause was crew shortages or traffic congestion.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 20, 2004 1:37 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dknelson

Power shortage huh? Maybe they wi***hey had retained some of those Chicago & North Western locomotives that were discarded because the colors weren't the right shade of yellow ....
Dave Nelson

Dave,
Keep C&NW units be expensive and repaint them

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Posted by kenneo on Saturday, March 20, 2004 11:42 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by brucemac14

ADVICE NEEDED

I am 23 have a college degree and been trying to get hired on by the UP. I lift weights with an engineer on the UP and he told me I for sure would get hired. Only problem is I can't even get an interview. As short of crews as they are especially in Iowa what and who are they looking for. Do I have to have military experience before they will consider me?


Have no idea where you live. but go to www.uprr.com and go to the employment section. There are plenty of openings in Washington, Oregon and California, and now starting to open up in Texas, also. You will have to be able to move to the job location.
Eric

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