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CSX Bomb Scare in NJ

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 8, 2008 8:40 AM

To take a line from an Eddie Murphy movie:

"There's gonna be consequences and repercussions!!". 

Oh I hope they throw the book at her - maybe a whole box car full of books.

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Posted by ericsp on Monday, September 8, 2008 12:18 AM

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Posted by ericsp on Sunday, September 7, 2008 11:54 PM
It appears that according to the newspaper it was, presumably, a boxcar full of LCL cargo. Or was the caller expecting an entire car full of stuff? Perhaps it was an REA car pulled by a steam locomotive.

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Posted by narig01 on Sunday, September 7, 2008 11:11 PM

Re Fed Ex & Rail.

Fed Ex Ground has been using some rail.  I've been seeing there trailers on BNSF out west on the Transcom.  

     Not sure if Fed Ex or if they were using a broker.

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Posted by KBCpresident on Sunday, September 7, 2008 8:50 PM
Fed Ex owns freight cars?!?!Question [?]

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Posted by henry6 on Sunday, September 7, 2008 7:40 PM
Early reports on the New Jersey Star LEdger last night said Fed Ex as reported by local police.  And they said it was a rail car and not a trailer aboard a rail car.  A.P. didn't get it wrong.  This time.

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Posted by greyhounds on Sunday, September 7, 2008 12:50 PM
 BaltACD wrote:
 greyhounds wrote:

 BaltACD wrote:
UPS is a big user of CSX and the train involved does carry UPS traffic.  UPS tracking numbers can give one a pretty good idea of where something is....especially if one poses the threat to UPS and they identify the container that is carrying the package.

I totally agree that UPS tracking will provide a good idea of where a shipment is.  But I don't recall ever being able to get a trailer number by tracking a shipment, nor have I been able to tell if the package is on the railroad or the highway.  I also agree that UPS is a big user of CSX.

But that's all irrelavent.  Unless the drive bys got the story totally wrong, this has nothing to do with UPS.  It was a FedEx shipment.  I don't see any way the caller could know what trailer her shipment was in or what train it was on.  I'm open to suggestions that don't involve UPS.

Fed Ex doesn't ship CSX.

Well, OK.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the Associated Press falsely reported a UPS shipment as a FedEx shipment.  As I stated, they don't give a rip if what they say is true or not.

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Posted by KBCpresident on Sunday, September 7, 2008 11:49 AM
Do non-railfans notice that an SD70M and an MP15AC and a Norweigan locomotive look differnt, or do they all look the same to them?Wink [;)]

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Posted by TimChgo9 on Sunday, September 7, 2008 8:22 AM

I know how they got that picture!  They "Googled" images of trains from North Bergen.... and then picked the first one that looked good, not knowing that it's Bergen, Norway, that those pictures are from...... LOL...  

Gotta love that.  

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Posted by BaltACD on Sunday, September 7, 2008 8:18 AM
 greyhounds wrote:

 BaltACD wrote:
UPS is a big user of CSX and the train involved does carry UPS traffic.  UPS tracking numbers can give one a pretty good idea of where something is....especially if one poses the threat to UPS and they identify the container that is carrying the package.

I totally agree that UPS tracking will provide a good idea of where a shipment is.  But I don't recall ever being able to get a trailer number by tracking a shipment, nor have I been able to tell if the package is on the railroad or the highway.  I also agree that UPS is a big user of CSX.

But that's all irrelavent.  Unless the drive bys got the story totally wrong, this has nothing to do with UPS.  It was a FedEx shipment.  I don't see any way the caller could know what trailer her shipment was in or what train it was on.  I'm open to suggestions that don't involve UPS.

Fed Ex doesn't ship CSX.

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Posted by greyhounds on Saturday, September 6, 2008 8:49 PM

 BaltACD wrote:
UPS is a big user of CSX and the train involved does carry UPS traffic.  UPS tracking numbers can give one a pretty good idea of where something is....especially if one poses the threat to UPS and they identify the container that is carrying the package.

I totally agree that UPS tracking will provide a good idea of where a shipment is.  But I don't recall ever being able to get a trailer number by tracking a shipment, nor have I been able to tell if the package is on the railroad or the highway.  I also agree that UPS is a big user of CSX.

But that's all irrelavent.  Unless the drive bys got the story totally wrong, this has nothing to do with UPS.  It was a FedEx shipment.  I don't see any way the caller could know what trailer her shipment was in or what train it was on.  I'm open to suggestions that don't involve UPS.

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, September 6, 2008 7:18 PM
 greyhounds wrote:

This one is realy suspicious.  Forget the photo for a moment, I'll get back to it.

How would this woman, the consignee of a FedEx package shipment, possibly know that FedEx had substituted rail intermodal movement for over the road movement?

FedEx has traditionally scorned rail intermodal use and made its line haul runs with team owner operator independent truckers.  This has been a gold mine for such truckers since FedEx caped their out of pocket fuel expenses and made up the difference.  (Last I read, FedEx was picking up everything over $1.25/gallon.  If a trucker was otherwise paying $4.00/gallon, that's huge.  At $4.00/gallon it would save the trucker $0.46/mile and make the difference between a nice fat paycheck and operating at a loss.) 

But gold mines play out. 

If FedEx has begun using rail intermodal instead of eating the fuel differential, it's going to end some truckers' bonanza.  So what's a poor trucker to do?  Well, that trucker, or his significant female other, could try to mess with intermodal shipments.  But how? Calling in a fake bomb threat is easy enough to do.  Again, how would this woman possibly know her package was on a specific CSX train?

As to the photo, the Drive By Media doesn't care.

I once watched a CNBC slash and trash on Greyhound racing.  They falsely claimed to show racing Greyhounds being mistreated.  One big problem.  The dogs CNBC showed were not racing Greyhounds.  We told CNBC "Those weren't racing dogs".  They didn't give a rip.  They're the New York Media and THEY define reality.  Whenever I see the Drive Bys accusing someone else of "Stonewalling", I get angry.  They're the ones who wrote the book on how to do it.

This was an AP story.  They don't give a rip either.  Ben there.  Talked to them.  They don't give a rip.

 

UPS is a big user of CSX and the train involved does carry UPS traffic.  UPS tracking numbers can give one a pretty good idea of where something is....especially if one poses the threat to UPS and they identify the container that is carrying the package.

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Posted by greyhounds on Saturday, September 6, 2008 6:34 PM

This one is realy suspicious.  Forget the photo for a moment, I'll get back to it.

How would this woman, the consignee of a FedEx package shipment, possibly know that FedEx had substituted rail intermodal movement for over the road movement?

FedEx has traditionally scorned rail intermodal use and made its line haul runs with team owner operator independent truckers.  This has been a gold mine for such truckers since FedEx caped their out of pocket fuel expenses and made up the difference.  (Last I read, FedEx was picking up everything over $1.25/gallon.  If a trucker was otherwise paying $4.00/gallon, that's huge.  At $4.00/gallon it would save the trucker $0.46/mile and make the difference between a nice fat paycheck and operating at a loss.) 

But gold mines play out. 

If FedEx has begun using rail intermodal instead of eating the fuel differential, it's going to end some truckers' bonanza.  So what's a poor trucker to do?  Well, that trucker, or his significant female other, could try to mess with intermodal shipments.  But how? Calling in a fake bomb threat is easy enough to do.  Again, how would this woman possibly know her package was on a specific CSX train?

As to the photo, the Drive By Media doesn't care.

I once watched a CNBC slash and trash on Greyhound racing.  They falsely claimed to show racing Greyhounds being mistreated.  One big problem.  The dogs CNBC showed were not racing Greyhounds.  We told CNBC "Those weren't racing dogs".  They didn't give a rip.  They're the New York Media and THEY define reality.  Whenever I see the Drive Bys accusing someone else of "Stonewalling", I get angry.  They're the ones who wrote the book on how to do it.

This was an AP story.  They don't give a rip either.  Ben there.  Talked to them.  They don't give a rip.

 

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Saturday, September 6, 2008 5:48 PM
This is the River Line, they probably couldn't find a train on it.
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Posted by KBCpresident on Saturday, September 6, 2008 5:34 PM
It does make you wonder...Why didn't the news agency just go out and take a picture of something on CSX... Or at least in North America!!Wink [;)]

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Saturday, September 6, 2008 5:12 PM
I haven't seen this story on the local news, but it is interesting.  The North Bergen facility is a busy intermodal terminal and something like this can certainly screw things up in a place like that.  The photo is a joke, why would they even put something like that up there?
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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, September 6, 2008 4:18 PM

8+ hour shut down will tear up a railroad.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, September 6, 2008 2:26 PM
tthe buffwea on the cars give it away that it is european stock.
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Posted by TomDiehl on Saturday, September 6, 2008 12:00 PM
 WIAR wrote:

A woman called to report a package was in a particular freight car that she thought was a bomb sent by her ex?  Huh??

What's worse - look at the photo in the news article on the right of the page - that sure doesn't look like CSX rolling stock!  I didn't know CSX operated center-cab switchers that look a lot like Swedish or Norwegian locomotives!

http://wcco.com/national/bomb.scare.frieght.2.811262.html

I guess we're importing everything now, including stock photos.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, September 6, 2008 11:26 AM

A woman called to report a package was in a particular freight car that she thought was a bomb sent by her ex?  Huh??

What's worse - look at the photo in the news article on the right of the page - that sure doesn't look like CSX rolling stock!  I didn't know CSX operated center-cab switchers that look a lot like Swedish or Norwegian locomotives!

http://wcco.com/national/bomb.scare.frieght.2.811262.html

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