Explain the term -- Embargoed

[Anonymous]

I was doing some personal research on the Kiamichi Railroad and ran across this: the Chaparral embargoed its line on August 10, 1994, and the Kiamichi began service over the four miles south of Paris.

According to the dictionary an embargo (reference to transporation) is: a common carrier or public regulatory agency order prohibiting or restricting freight traffic. However the article said the Chaparral embargoed it own line, not a government agency.

What is the difference between embargoing and abandonment? [?] If you embargo your own line can you "bring it back into service"?

I bet once we get this topic going there will be more questions about this. We will see. [;)]

[Modelcar]

....Recently [several years ago], the NS embargoed it's famous line down in NC and especially known for it's passage up and over the mountain grade of 4.7%...[steepest main line class one in America], at Saluda, N C. The line is secured that no traffic can run on it but it is kept in place for a possible future use. [8D]

[JoeKoh]

Yes
you should be able to bring it back into service once it meets inspection standards.the maumee and western line from defiance to cecil is embargoed because of poor track.if it ever gets the money it could bring it back to service.
stay safe
Joe

[Anonymous]

jhh, a railroad will embargo a line it is about to close. When a railroad embargoes, it notifies all the other carriers that after a certain date, its line is embargoed; that is, it no longer will accept freight to the points affected by the embargo. This is done so someone's shipment doesn't arrive at some former junction to travel a line that no longer is in service, or no longer exists. This also lets online customers know the last minute drop-dead date they can ship or receive goods. Usually, an embargo is posted a certain time prior to the embargo; I'm sure there's some Federally mandated minimum period to allow time for shipments to be delivered. (although if a line is being abandoned, there usually isn't much in the way of shipments anyway...) I'm sure your Kiamichi road issued a new set of tarrifs to cover the remaining line south of Paris, and likely effective the date of Kiamichi's startup.

[mudchicken]

Good question Jim!

When a line is embargoed:

(1) it is NOT abandoned....
(2) it can be brought back to service (Missouri Central has 200 miles of line embargoed over 20 years and may come back to life...UPRR/DRGW's Tennessee Pass line is not abandoned, but it is embargoed...best current examples along with Northwestern Pacific which is embargoed, not abandoned, after the FRA "death sentence" after a rash of signal compliance failures....no Revenue trains since Thanksgiving '98....cars still marooned on the upper part of the railroad behind mudslides last I heard...California Western and Mas River & Arcata cut-off from the rest of the country)
(2A) it can be used to descriminate against certain shippers or car types
(3) it (the embargo) must state the reason why....Example: UP embargoed Iowa Northwestern after a contractual dispute (still not resolved, may go to court) over a yet to be built interchange track west of Superior, IA....the railroad still runs)
(4) those reasons why include track conditions, track congestion (too many cars destined to the same place), floods, bridge damage, contractual issues, tunnel collapses, insurance and so on.....
(5) Those embargoes can be seen via the AAR's website....

[banghead][banghead][banghead][banghead]

[Anonymous]

Skeets [:)]

Mudchicken [:)]

Thanks for your answers. This is good info to know. [8D]

I bet when Mookie sees this thread the printer will be humming. [:p]