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Train Hits Car, Moments After Driver Gets Out

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Posted by anb740 on Friday, August 22, 2008 4:51 PM
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Everyone knows the CIA and the black helicopters will track you through your GPS, SO DON"T GET ONE  Whistling [:-^]

Awww crap, they've found me!  Gotta go run and hide! Laugh [(-D] Laugh [(-D]  Seriously, if you want to see paranoia, go on to youtube and look at all the idiots who swear the autoracks roaming the rails are really FEMA prison cars getting ready for mass transit of people unfit for US citizenship.  Funny stuff!

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Posted by Geared Steam on Friday, August 22, 2008 4:14 PM

This accident has nothing to do with a GPS.

You anti-tech guys are hilarious to read. 

I wonder what you were saying about 'puters and that "innernet" 10 years ago. Laugh [(-D]

Everyone knows the CIA and the black helicopters will track you through your GPS, SO DON"T GET ONE  Whistling [:-^]

 

 

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Posted by Railroader_Sailor_SSN-760 on Friday, August 22, 2008 3:28 PM
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If memory serves correctly, the investigation showed that the lady (who swore she wasn't drunk) was talking on a cell phone trying to get directions from a friend when she turned on what she thought was the road....ahhh, no ma'am, that's a railroad track!  She proceeded to try and back up/pull forward until she got the thing stuck for good when the officer pulled up and found her.  No worries, as an Amtrak P40 going 60+mph can remove it with no problems.  What you didn't see on the video was the fireball that engulfed the car and the lead unit after impact.  The officer should have put her in handcuffs and charged her with attempted involuntary manslaughter for every person on that train.  She could have killed or severely "crispened" everybody on board for her stupidity had the train derailed.

 

Very good point. This is not just a simple mistake. This is gross negligence, and this feeble-minded driver needs to pay for it.

Perhaps a few decades behind bars would do the trick. Once out, forbid her from ever getting behind the wheel of any vehicle again.

If you make the punishments stricter and actually enforced it, then the number of stupid things done will go down, as the idiots of America will no longer have the weak justice system to back them up if they do stupid things.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, August 22, 2008 2:29 PM
At the risk of bragging a little bit, my extended family and friends are aware that I have an incredibly good sense of direction.  This was fostered to a large extent by my father when we were on family trips.  He also helped encourage my mapreading abilities.  One of more amusing consequences of this ability comes from my wife.  She has often stated that she will never buy a GPS device, she's already got me!
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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Friday, August 22, 2008 1:59 PM
If I recall it was almost 2 mins the officer trying to get her to get out of the car.  That part of the video is edited off. I don't think she had a GPS
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Posted by anb740 on Friday, August 22, 2008 12:18 PM

If memory serves correctly, the investigation showed that the lady (who swore she wasn't drunk) was talking on a cell phone trying to get directions from a friend when she turned on what she thought was the road....ahhh, no ma'am, that's a railroad track!  She proceeded to try and back up/pull forward until she got the thing stuck for good when the officer pulled up and found her.  No worries, as an Amtrak P40 going 60+mph can remove it with no problems.  What you didn't see on the video was the fireball that engulfed the car and the lead unit after impact.  The officer should have put her in handcuffs and charged her with attempted involuntary manslaughter for every person on that train.  She could have killed or severely "crispened" everybody on board for her stupidity had the train derailed.

 

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Posted by Kevin C. Smith on Friday, August 22, 2008 1:28 AM

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Recently during a trip to San Diego, CA, I was riding "shotgun" with a buddy and he had his GPS working on the dash...it told him to "turn left now" at a point at which (if he had complied with the verbal GPS instructions) he would have turned left onto the Amtrak Coaster tracks.  Needless to say he did not comply with the instructions (moments later the GPS told him it was recomputing his route after he had failed to comply). While my buddy did the obviously right thing, some people might blindly obey the GPS voice without thinking and perhaps this is what happened here?

I get that problem a lot at the hotel where I work. People get soooo lost with their GPS and I have to give them good, ol' fashioned "write this down" directions to get them back. And half the time, as I'm telling them which (correct) street/direction to go, I they say "But my GPS says to go the other way". I'd deliberately send them down a dead end road to the river but we have no cliffs in the city...

A locksmith we use likes to recount how, when remote locking controls first came out, he'd get calls from people needing him to let them in their cars-because the battery died on their remote. He would collect the payment for the call first, since some people didn't appreciate it when he just went over and unlocked the door with their own key.

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Posted by Railroader_Sailor_SSN-760 on Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:36 PM

This is definitely not a first.

I would be not surprised if she decided to try to sue over the loss of her car.

I remember an incident similar to this not far from Fargo, ND a little over a decade ago where a woman decided to try to use the BN main line as a shortcut between roads, and she got her car stuck on the tracks several hundred feet away from the crossing.

The only reason she came to a stop was that she ended up ripping out a radiator hose on the way down from the road onto the rails. There was a trail of coolant to her car, which ended up overheating to the point where it seized up.

A step-uncle of mine owned a tow truck that was called out to help get the car off of the track. He said that BN called him, and told him to bill the driver, but they needed the car off the main line as soon as he could get it off the tracks. 

Fortunately that time, there was no collision, due to people nearby calling BN and telling them about the driver, and rapid police action ensured that a large crowd got in the way. 

If memory serves, the car was a total loss due to the damage done to the radiator, and her insistance on ignoring the temperature warning light. She tried to sue my step-uncle for "damages" but that did not go through. I remember him being mad about the fact that she did not pay him for his services.

At least that went smooth. Here we have another person that should never have been allowed behind the wheel of ANY car that has now made a great deal of paperwork for a lot of people, and I doubt that she will see any of the costs she incurred. 

I think she should be held liable for all repairs needed to the locomotive, any track damage, wasted fuel and time caused by the emergency stop, and to re-imburse the passengers for their experience and delays, I am pretty sure that being on a train that is in emergency braking mode is not a pleasant experience.

Yet another stupid person that should not be at the helm of any motorized vehicle. clearly she did not understand how her car works. No, it is not a Hy-Railer, so stay on the roads. (Or in her case, OFF the roads).

She should be glad that someone put themselves at risk to get her out of her car.

 

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Posted by trainfan1221 on Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:20 PM
What always gets me about this video is that after the train clears and the crossing de- activates, the crossing gate goes back down with no other trains coming.  Maybe they contacted the railroad to do this so nobody else crosses while this is going on?
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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:28 AM

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She looks drunk the way she's staggering about.

She is not in 'sober control' of herself....however, without testing her, her actions could be caused by the emotions of the situation.  Seeing a signifigant amount of your investment and life made in to unrecognizable junk in seconds can be a very emotional experience.

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Posted by eolafan on Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:22 AM
I have to agree with Tim, and by the way, I am looking for a good deal on a lightly used Ford Model T if anybody can help me...I refuse to buy anything more high tech than that.
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Posted by TimChgo9 on Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:20 AM

I refuse to buy a GPS device..... I have lived in this area for all of my life, and have been driving for 25 years, so, if I need to know how to get anywhere, I'll get a good map.  My wife uses a GPS for her job, and it is an annoying piece of equipment.  If I need a GPS, it would only be if I was in an unfamiliar city, but even then, once you learn the addressing scheme, and have a good map, you can get anywhere. 

I was in a Best Buy about 2 weeks ago, and my son and I were looking at the GPS devices, and I told him that I prefer maps to GPS devices, and I would never buy a GPS.  Well, the salesman overheard that, and asked me "Why would you prefer a paper map to a GPS?".  To which, I replied "Paper doesn't break" 

I love technology, but, there are places where it can go too far, and we become to dependent on it.  

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:34 AM
 SWChicagoRailfan wrote:
 silicon212 wrote:
 SWChicagoRailfan wrote:
 moelarrycurly4 wrote:

She was crying because she can't beleive how stupid she was sitting there. She made a wrong turn onto the tracks and was talking on her cell phone. It too the officer a bit longer than he liked to convince her to hang up and get out of the car.

There were news reports back when this happened.

Ted, I believe the officer happend to find her sitting there and called it in.

 

Please tell me that this is a joke. Otherwise the last shred of hope I had for humanity is forever lost. 

Not a joke.  This happened late last year and made the news everywhere when it did.  It was also shown on TruTV's "Most Daring".

 I meant that I hope that "moelarrycurly" was joking about her making a wrong turn onto the tracks. This video is obviously very real. I just flushed my last shred of hope for humanity down the toilet. 

Unfortunately, there have been a number of reported cases of people blindly following the instructions of their talking GPS and ending up in untoward circumstances, including getting stuck on the tracks and having their car struck by a train.  Others have ended up in bodies of water.

I've heard rumors that OTR truck drivers have driven "IFR" (instrument flight rules) in extremely limited visibility, relying on their GPS to keep them steered in the right direction.

A friend recently told me that he opted to use a known better route than that the GPS had computed.  The poor thing tried for quite a while to get them back on the route it thought they should be taking, providing instructions at every intersection to send them to the other route.

Yep.  Scary.

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Posted by TH&B on Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:33 AM
She looks drunk the way she's staggering about.
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Posted by SWChicagoRailfan on Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:26 AM
 silicon212 wrote:
 SWChicagoRailfan wrote:
 moelarrycurly4 wrote:

She was crying because she can't beleive how stupid she was sitting there. She mad e a wrong turn onto the tracks and was tlaking on her cell phone. It too the officer a bit longer than he liked to convince her to hang up and get out of the car.

There were news reports back when this happened.

Ted I believe th officer happend to find her sitting there and called it in.

 

 

Please tell me that this is a joke. Otherwise the last shred of hope I had for humanity is forever lost. 

Not a joke.  This happened late last year and made the news everywhere when it did.  It was also shown on TruTV's "Most Daring".

 I meant that I hope that "moelarrycurly" was joking about her making a wrong turn onto the tracks. This video is obviously very real. I just flushed my last shred of hope for humanity down the toilet.  

 

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Posted by eolafan on Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:11 AM
Recently during a trip to San Diego, CA, I was riding "shotgun" with a buddy and he had his GPS working on the dash...it told him to "turn left now" at a point at which (if he had complied with the verbal GPS instructions) he would have turned left onto the Amtrak Coaster tracks.  Needless to say he did not comply with the instructions (moments later the GPS told him it was recomputing his route after he had failed to comply). While my buddy did the obviously right thing, some people might blindly obey the GPS voice without thinking and perhaps this is what happened here?
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Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:26 AM

.....And it is true as someone above did mention...we've seen this video before.  I was just a bit surprised the personnel near by didn't move back farther from the impact point for better safety.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:12 AM

How come the Amtrak train kept moving at high speed, wouldn't they stop...

The train was stopping - the video just didn't record long enough.

Unlike model trains, the real deal doesn't stop on a dime.

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Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:11 AM

....After impact, I thought the train reduced speed rather quick....You don't stop a train on a dime....Looked like it might have been a 79 mph area the way it came across the crossing.

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Posted by Awesome! on Thursday, August 21, 2008 6:40 AM

How come the Amtrak train kept moving at high speed, wouldn't they stop...

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Posted by silicon212 on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:42 PM
 SWChicagoRailfan wrote:
 moelarrycurly4 wrote:

She was crying because she can't beleive how stupid she was sitting there. She mad e a wrong turn onto the tracks and was tlaking on her cell phone. It too the officer a bit longer than he liked to convince her to hang up and get out of the car.

There were news reports back when this happened.

Ted I believe th officer happend to find her sitting there and called it in.

 

 

Please tell me that this is a joke. Otherwise the last shred of hope I had for humanity is forever lost. 

Not a joke.  This happened late last year and made the news everywhere when it did.  It was also shown on TruTV's "Most Daring".

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Posted by SWChicagoRailfan on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:52 PM
 moelarrycurly4 wrote:

She was crying because she can't beleive how stupid she was sitting there. She mad e a wrong turn onto the tracks and was tlaking on her cell phone. It too the officer a bit longer than he liked to convince her to hang up and get out of the car.

There were news reports back when this happened.

Ted I believe th officer happend to find her sitting there and called it in.

 

 

Please tell me that this is a joke. Otherwise the last shred of hope I had for humanity is forever lost. 

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:37 PM

She was crying because she can't beleive how stupid she was sitting there. She mad e a wrong turn onto the tracks and was tlaking on her cell phone. It too the officer a bit longer than he liked to convince her to hang up and get out of the car.

 

There were news reports back when this happened.

 

Ted I believe th officer happend to find her sitting there and called it in.

 

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Posted by Ted Marshall on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:33 PM

I believe this same video has been posted here before; definitely worth watching again. Thumbs Up [tup]

I find it amazing how oblivious she appeared to the impending danger while the officer was[politely] escorting her off the tracks. It seemed that reality didn't even sink in until seconds after her car was annihilated. Where was her head? Dunce [D)]

Word is that the police had notified Amtrak, the crew was alerted and the train was in already in emergency when the horn was first blown. I cannot, of course, say at this moment if that's a fact, but a buddy of mine who happens to be an engineer told me what he had learned about the incident and I have no reason not to believe him. Anyway, that had to be over 60 mph at the moment of impact. Not sure if she called the police or if the officer was just at the right place at the right time, but, it's clear to me that if it were not for the officer she would have went with the car. Sigh [sigh]

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Train Hits Car, Moments After Driver Gets Out
Posted by Awesome! on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:59 PM

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=qUNZO1Xti1E&feature=rec-fresh

I can't believe she's crying... She should be happy!

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