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Posted by MichaelSol on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:23 PM
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RWM, 

 A very interesting and informative post - thanks! A bit timely too, as I've reading through Stan Johnson's book, The Milwaukee Road's Western Extension, which has a chapter devoted to medical care for the workers.

I provided the photos of Milwaukee Hospital Association hospitals at Mobridge and Three Forks and much of the information for that chapter as well, and I am glad that Stan took the time and showed the interest to include that usually forgotten aspect of railroad history. The history of the association hospital built at Taft for the workers at the St. Paul Tunnel was memorialized in a book, "Doctors, Dynamite and Dogs", by the daughter of the Chief Surgeon at the hospital and Stan drew some good stories from that.

 

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Posted by SALfan on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:46 PM
Don't know when it passed out of RR control, but at one time Savannah GA had a Central of Georgia hospital.  I had my tonsils taken out there in 1969, and it was already part of the Candler Hospital group.  Years ago Candler built a single hospital to replace 3 or 4 scattered hospitals it operated; don't know what happened to the Central building. 
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Posted by erikem on Saturday, May 17, 2008 4:10 PM

RWM, 

 A very interesting and informative post - thanks! A bit timely too, as I've reading through Stan Johnson's book, The Milwaukee Road's Western Extension, which has a chapter devoted to medical care for the workers.

 Railway Man wrote:

Of tangential but striking interest, railways that offered medical care systems had a strikingly lower employee fatality rate than railways that did not, in the 1905-1920 period.  (I did a multiple regression analysis back in graduate school to see if this was the case.)  The three safest raillroads in the country, in terms of number of employee fatalities per total man-hours of employment were the Southern Pacific, Union Pacific, Santa Fe, Illinois Central, and Denver & Rio Grande Western -- all at least two standard deviations above the norm most years.  The least safe railroads were the New York Central and Pennsylvania Railroad -- three standard deviations below the norm most years.  The least safe western railroad was the Milwaukee Road.  I seriously doubt that the railroad medical care system had any direct influence on reducing the fatality rate, but more likely a railroad that had a management style that would include a hospital system also was a railroad that took safety more seriously, and a railroad that needed a hospital system by reasons of remoteness was one that had more incentive to not kill off too many employees, as replacements were not close at hand as they were in the teeming cities of the Official Territory.  Official Territory states were also the first to pass state Workmen's Compensation laws (New York State 1910), which removed much of the benefit to a railway of operating a railway medical system.

Lessee, SP, UP, IC... If I remember correctly, these were all associated with E.H. Harriman - my respect for the guy just went up a notch or two. 

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Posted by kenneo on Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:33 AM

In the 1960's and later (and this started much earlier) had as RailWayMan stated a company hospital in SF, but only the long term cases were treated there.  First, you went to a Company Doctor which was usually a private physician (sp)  and if you needed hospitalization, there were "old" company hsopitals that had been turned into community hospitals where you were sent, and until toward the end of the system, IIRC, there was no cost to the employee and only moderate cost for family members.  I do not recall there being any deduction for the employee, but there was for my wife.

When the unions got agreement medical services, the SF hospital and the SP medical system was not permitted to operate as it had for about 100 years, and several of the SP's unions took it over as an HMO.  It finally was closed because its outgo was greater than its income. 

 

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Posted by videomaker on Friday, May 16, 2008 3:44 PM

  Cleburne,Tx. Santa Fe hospital now part of the Hugley Med. Ctr.

Temple Tx. Santa Fe hospital now part of the Scott & White Med. Ctr.

Both of these hospitals were referred to as The Santa Fe Hospital by locals prior to being bought by their current owners...

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Posted by SSW9389 on Friday, May 16, 2008 3:26 PM
Red Standefer was paying $1 per month back in 1919 for hospitilization insurance at the Cotton Belt's Texarkana, AR facility. By 1940 this payroll deduction had gone up to $6 per month.
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Posted by eastside on Friday, May 16, 2008 3:00 PM
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Illinois Central Hospital, on Stony Island Dr. in Chicago and visible from the Metra Electric, had its roots in the railroad, although it was no longer associated with the IC in the 1980's, when I lived in Hyde Park. It's successor institution went under a few years ago, but the building still stands.

My connection with railroading began early in life: I was born in Illinois Central Hospital Big Smile [:D].

I always wondered what became of it.  Thanks.
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Posted by Rwulfsberg on Friday, May 16, 2008 2:06 PM
Illinois Central Hospital, on Stony Island Dr. in Chicago and visible from the Metra Electric, had its roots in the railroad, although it was no longer associated with the IC in the 1980's, when I lived in Hyde Park. It's successor institution went under a few years ago, but the building still stands.
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Posted by arbfbe on Friday, May 16, 2008 12:46 PM

When the MILW built west they built company hospitals in towns which needed them and used the existing facilities where they existed.  The MILW built them in Miles City and Three Forks but not is Butte or Deer Ldoge where hospitals existed.  They did not build in Alberton nor Superior.  The company hospitals were open to the public as well as to the employees.  The NP had a company hospital in Missoula where more than one private hospital was in operation.

The Milwaukee Hospital Association was an insurance adjunct to the company hospitals in cooperation between the company and the unions which was phased out during the 1960s when private insurers were contracted by the railroad under contractual obligations with the unions.   

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Posted by Railway Man on Friday, May 16, 2008 9:44 AM

Railroad hospitals were a feature of a medical-care system that provided complete employee medical care to all employees through compulsory payroll deduction.  This system was pervasive on Class I railroads in the Far Western and Southern regions, but uncommon in the Eastern Region, where only the C&O and the Wabash were so governed, both stemming from managerial heritage -- the C&O was a Collis P. Huntington Road, the Wabash a Gould road.  The Milwaukee Road was so governed only on lines west of Mobridge, South Dakota.  The Great Northern, Soo Line, Burlington, and Chicago & North Western were the only major western roads without a medical-care system; however, Burlington subsidiaries Colorado & Southern and Fort Worth & Denver, and C&NW subsidiary Omaha Road, had medical-care systems.

Medical care through fixed periodic payment was also widespread in industrial-scale western metals mining (Montana, Idaho, Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Nevada), industrial-scale lumbering in Oregon, Washington, and California, and in coal mining throughout the United States.  Some steel mills and large, integrated industrial establishments also featured company medical systems, such as Tennessee Coal, Iron & Railroad Co. in Birmingham.  The first railroad hospital, in Sacramento, California, and railroad health-care system was instituted by the Central Pacific Railroad in 1865.  The same system began to appear in coal mining at about the same time, some believe it was an outgrowth of British coal-mining practice but there's not a lot of information about the origins of employee medical-care systems in the 1800s.

The system only indirectly arose from the high injury rate; the root causes were:

(1) the Federal Employers' Liability Law and no federal or state workmen's compensation law, which enabled the employee injured in the line of duty to recover damages from the employer through a lawsuit, which as interpreted by a jury of peers (and in a railroad town whom else might be found on the jury) was viewed by the railroad companies as too lucrative to the injured employee;

(2) a lack of established medical services in remote and frontier environments, and lack of likelihood that medical services would self-develop without company support;

(3) inclusion of medical care in employment was viewed by companies as an inducement to attract employees that otherwise would decline to work in remote and frontier environments;

(4) an widespread ethos of paternalistic practices by large corporations during this era, particularly because the labor force was so heavily made up of immigrants; corporations as well as the general public felt that the labor force needed to be Americanized in language, culture, lifestyle, and social practice.

The very first medical subspecialty organization in the U.S. was the Railway Surgeons.  Unlike physicians of today who at least in theory are supposed to put the interests of the patient before the interests of anyone or any institution or company, the Railway Physicians gave their primary allegiance to the company, and viewed their major challenges as the identification of malingerers, defending the company against lawsuits, competition from unaffiliated physicians, and maintaining their access to the free pass. 

Unlike railways, compulsory medical care in the mining industries typically included the employee's families.  Pregnancy was not covered; the employee paid a separate and often exorbitant fee to the company medical system for each birth.  Treatment for venereal disease was excluded in virtually all company-administered medical-care systems.

Company medical systems in coal mining often provided grossly substandard medical care offered by unqualified or unlicensed physicians in squalid clinics.  Many coal mining companies used the medical system as a profit center with captive customers.  A major investigation of coal mining medical systems at the direction of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and conducted by the U.S. Naval Health Service in the mid-1930s resulted in exposure of these practices, with the result being that coal mining health care was transferred to the United Mine Workers Union, and the burden of payment effectively transferred from the coal miner to the coal consumer.  Railroad medical systems suffered a less ignominous outcome because unlike coal mining their hospitals and institutions were large-city based and thus had greater pressure to conform with progressive medical and social thought and standards.  They gradually faded away under cost pressures into typical PPO or HMO type insurance; I believe the last railway hospital to close was the Southern Pacific hospital in San Francisco in the 1970s.  Some railroad hospital associations still exist, but are entirely an insurance organization.

The traveling public was rarely treated in a railroad hospital; treatment by a railway surgeon or hospital usually required the passenger to sign away his or her right to sue for damages.  The level of treatment was at the discretion of the railway surgeon and the outcomes for the patient were whatever the railway surgeon said they ought to be.  This is not to be confused with emergency medical treatment.

Of tangential but striking interest, railways that offered medical care systems had a strikingly lower employee fatality rate than railways that did not, in the 1905-1920 period.  (I did a multiple regression analysis back in graduate school to see if this was the case.)  The three safest raillroads in the country, in terms of number of employee fatalities per total man-hours of employment were the Southern Pacific, Union Pacific, Santa Fe, Illinois Central, and Denver & Rio Grande Western -- all at least two standard deviations above the norm most years.  The least safe railroads were the New York Central and Pennsylvania Railroad -- three standard deviations below the norm most years.  The least safe western railroad was the Milwaukee Road.  I seriously doubt that the railroad medical care system had any direct influence on reducing the fatality rate, but more likely a railroad that had a management style that would include a hospital system also was a railroad that took safety more seriously, and a railroad that needed a hospital system by reasons of remoteness was one that had more incentive to not kill off too many employees, as replacements were not close at hand as they were in the teeming cities of the Official Territory.  Official Territory states were also the first to pass state Workmen's Compensation laws (New York State 1910), which removed much of the benefit to a railway of operating a railway medical system.

It's also of interest that compulsory Workmen's Compensation laws, bitterly opposed by business interests and rural states for many years, extending into the last Southern state, Mississippi, not until in 1948, was opposed by business because without employees could only seek redress through the courts.  Poll taxes and jury selection criteria in the early 1900s tended to favor juries composed of businessmen.  Later after the abolition of restrictions on jury composition, business interests realized the jury system was becoming adverse to their economic interests, and flipped their position to support Workmen's Compensation.  Railroads are still outside of the Workmen's Compensation system.

Railway medical systems were a marriage of ideology and economics.  It's hard to say which was the more important, and to who, at any given time.

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Railroad Hospitals
Posted by Victrola1 on Friday, May 16, 2008 8:43 AM

One finds references to railroad hospitals in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Why were these founded?

From limited study of the subject, it seems these hospitals were usually found at division points. References are made to injured empolyees being transport some distance for treatment at these hospitals.  

Was the carnage that great on railroads that something akin to a military medical corps was deemed necessary?

Whatever became of railroad hospitals? Did they eventually become absorbed into, or become, community hospitals? Did railroads take the lead in demonstrating the need for community hospitals as medicine advanced in the late 19th century?

 

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