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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Saturday, February 28, 2004 3:43 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

No actually he's laughing at me. This thread started shortly after the same discussion on MR side. To help explain and give credit to those who had already do explaining. I posted the link, because several of us post on both the MR and Trains forums most notably the highly revered and oft quoted vsmith. I put the ACl comment in there because his posting style is similiar to a Trains member who hasn't been on in awhile, but was noted for well...his style.


Well Dan, I don't mind if people laugh at me. After over 700 posts in just under 3 months, I've come to know who the players are around here, not only on MR, but on TRAINS and CTT as well, because you will find me on all 3. Not only did I see the link, I clicked on it to refresh my memory. I was the one who was foaming on that one.[:p][:D]

You and Kevin and Vic and ACL and I were all in on that one, and someone there taught me how to spell the word GAUGE. I am all too familiar with ACL these days, as I'm sure Kevin knows and will agree, after a major blow out over my topic entitled BUSTED.[:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 28, 2004 1:24 PM
Well Mook, I don't do the soaps [xx(] but I do watch the history channel a lot. I'm just a cornicopia of useless knowlege.
And as for you Dan, thanks for the offer of the meds but I have a pretty good supply for now.
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Posted by dharmon on Friday, February 27, 2004 10:57 AM
No actually he's laughing at me. This thread started shortly after the same discussion on MR side. To help explain and give credit to those who had already do explaining. I posted the link, because several of us post on both the MR and Trains forums most notably the highly revered and oft quoted vsmith. I put the ACl comment in there because his posting style is similiar to a Trains member who hasn't been on in awhile, but was noted for well...his style.
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Friday, February 27, 2004 8:04 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11451

This discusses model scales....pqy qteention to vsmiths...ignore ACL fan..he's the MR cabforward.



OH HAHAHAHAHAHAA!!

What a RIOT!!

LOL DAN...

HAHAHAHAHAAAH!!


You laughing at me Kevin? I did get a little carried away on that topic. I didn't remember ACL in that one, but I didn't know him as well back then.[:p][:D][(-D][(-D][(-D]

I was actually the one with the most posts to that topic, and also the most quoted. Perhaps I went a bit overboard there, but at the time, I felt that any comments not about O were off topic.

The topic title was vague, but the question was specific to O. I won't say that all of the discussion wasn't interesting. I actually learned a few things about different sized trains.
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Posted by cherokee woman on Friday, February 27, 2004 7:46 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

You know what happned the last time I really got sick with that stupid bug thing can't rememebr what the name of it is, but.. wait.. the name is whatever was invented beofre Stereo sound, before stereo there was one channel sound... called...

Drat...

Well anyways, lying down on the soaf suffering from whatever it is, I couldn't move and couldn't talk, AND guess what? I Was stuck watching TV all the crap like General hospital and Passions, you know THAT stuff..

WELL long story short, my Girlfriend also has this nervewaracking, and somewhat scary habbit of talking to the soap opera and saying stuff like "NO, LISA.. not him!! CAn't YOU SEE??!?!?

I don't know what was worse, the bug, or wathcing soa operas every afternoon

I HATE soap operas!!

Well, thats my story marty, I think your lucky enough not to have to go through that!

Get well though..



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Posted by Mookie on Friday, February 27, 2004 7:11 AM
Marty - watch Young and Restless - it is the best one on! However, tape it and fast forward through all the mercials and past the characters you don't care for. Makes an hour show about 15 min long...oh I forgot - you are trying to kill time aren't you...oops....

Learn how to sleep like a cat - 22 out of 24 hours!

That works for me

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 26, 2004 6:12 PM
You know what happned the last time I really got sick with that stupid bug thing can't rememebr what the name of it is, but.. wait.. the name is whatever was invented beofre Stereo sound, before stereo there was one channel sound... called...

Drat...

Well anyways, lying down on the soaf suffering from whatever it is, I couldn't move and couldn't talk, AND guess what? I Was stuck watching TV all the crap like General hospital and Passions, you know THAT stuff..

WELL long story short, my Girlfriend also has this nervewaracking, and somewhat scary habbit of talking to the soap opera and saying stuff like "NO, LISA.. not him!! CAn't YOU SEE??!?!?

I don't know what was worse, the bug, or wathcing soa operas every afternoon

I HATE soap operas!!

Well, thats my story marty, I think your lucky enough not to have to go through that!

Get well though..
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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by drailed1999

Well I'm a little pi@#ed off about the whole thing but I was cleaning up my work area and saw a thin metal gasket laying on the floor. Now that gasket is only about .010" of an inch thick and I was just going walk by and pick it up. Unbeknown to me, there was a table with an engine block sitting on it holding it to the floor. When I went to pick it up, I pulled it through my hand cutting an artery, 2 nerves all 3 tendons. Needless to say I'll be off work a few months. But all in all, I'm doing ok.[B)] [banghead] [D)]

P.S. Yep it's my business hand. You should try and type with only your left hand. It takes a while.[:D]


You win! You can have they rest of my meds...get better soon.
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:24 PM
Oh Marty - I am so sorry for you. That had to be a real trip! I hope you don't have any long-term effects from this. 'Course, you won't know until you can start using it again!

And to add insult to injury, you will have to watch all the utter nonsense they have on daytime tv! Oh my, this is serious!

Well, will try to cheer you up every so often, so keep reading the forums! Maybe I will go hunt up a chicken and pull his feathers a little for entertainment! I am cheered up already! [C=:-)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 26, 2004 11:51 AM
Well I'm a little pi@#ed off about the whole thing but I was cleaning up my work area and saw a thin metal gasket laying on the floor. Now that gasket is only about .010" of an inch thick and I was just going walk by and pick it up. Unbeknown to me, there was a table with an engine block sitting on it holding it to the floor. When I went to pick it up, I pulled it through my hand cutting an artery, 2 nerves all 3 tendons. Needless to say I'll be off work a few months. But all in all, I'm doing ok.[B)] [banghead] [D)]

P.S. Yep it's my business hand. You should try and type with only your left hand. It takes a while.[:D]
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, February 26, 2004 6:17 AM
Marty - what did you do - if you care to explain and is it your business hand or your I'll just hang out and "watch" hand?

I feel bad for both you and Dan. I have a no pain threshold! Even felt some pain over Dan's poetry!

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Posted by dharmon on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 3:12 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by drailed1999

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

Marty - did your meds wear off or did you pass out somewhere?

Well the meds have worn a few days ago and every time even think about moving my hand, OH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![xx(]


Sorry to hear bout your digit...
Meds are good meds are great I'll take whatever meds are on the plate.....
Just got my cast off today....ahh to scratch again..........
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 2:45 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

Marty - did your meds wear off or did you pass out somewhere?

Well the meds have worn a few days ago and every time even think about moving my hand, OH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![xx(]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 5:38 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by drailed1999

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

I------------------------------------------------------------| is one foot.

back to corner/dog house/kev's couch

its the meds..

Hey Dan,
I can sympathize with ya. I just had my right index finger re-attached. I'm on some really good meds too. Ok I need someone to stop the world,I'm getting dizzy!!!!!!!!![:D]
Marty! Who did you point at and what did they do? Dan's is for medical reasons, yours is due to...........?
I was taught never to point. That thing has a nail in it.
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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 1:25 PM
Marty - did your meds wear off or did you pass out somewhere?

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 1:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

Add 3 more.


I should have learned my lesson I guess after I let my wife order new carpet while I was gone.

I didn't realize she'd ordered 3200 sf for a 1600 sf house until the bill came.....anyone need some berber?
Send it to me - we really need new carpet and I don't see the landlord coming up with any! Will have a little left over to do doormats, too!

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Posted by dharmon on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

Add 3 more.


I should have learned my lesson I guess after I let my wife order new carpet while I was gone.

I didn't realize she'd ordered 3200 sf for a 1600 sf house until the bill came.....anyone need some berber?
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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:39 PM
Add 3 more.

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Posted by dharmon on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:36 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon



And all this time I thought G scale stood for "Golly"....As in golly, we're gonna need alot of room for this stuff.


It actually stands for

Gee, This stuff is HUGE!

USA's new 4-6-4 Hudson with tender is 3 feet long...The F3 A-B-B-A engine combo is over 6' feet long...these things are enormous....


So the F3 combo is like:

|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
that long?
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Posted by vsmith on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon



And all this time I thought G scale stood for "Golly"....As in golly, we're gonna need alot of room for this stuff.


It actually stands for

Gee, This stuff is HUGE!

USA's new 4-6-4 Hudson with tender is 3 feet long...The F3 A-B-B-A engine combo is over 6' feet long...these things are enormous....

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:14 AM
So, to correct for our European and UK friends....
|---------------------------------------------------| is 33 Centimeters


Not to me it isn't - 33 centimetres is some kind of evil Napoleonic measurement thats trying to take over the world - lets stick to 6" (even though its still nowhere near)
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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 6:01 AM
Vic - Mookie is on overload. Just needed the basic, so it would fill up that little corner that had a question. Don't plan to model or garden. Just a tiny bit of curiousity. However, there may be others that would love to learn more.

Now for Dan's sake - I have a headache!

Thanx!

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Posted by dharmon on Monday, February 23, 2004 9:01 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by vsmith

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

Well, here it goes. "Scale" refers to the size of the model train in proportion to a real train and "gauge" is the gauge of the track. Here's a list of the most common scales/gauges going from smallest to largest:
Z- 1:220 scale, 6.5mm gauge (about 1/4 of an inch)
N- 1:160 scale, 9mm gauge or 0.35 inches
TT- 1:120 scale, 12mm gauge (just under half and inch)
HO- 1:87 scale, 3/4 of an inch gauge
S- 1:64 scale, 5/8 of an inch gauge
O- 1:45 scale, 1.25 inch gauge
Gauge 1- 1:22.5 scale, 45mm gauge, about 1.75 inches
G- 1:32 scale, also 45mm gauge
Standard Gauge: close to G and 1

In G scale the G stands for gross, German for large. G scale is sometimes referred to as "large scale". A revival in the popularity of big trains came in 1968 when the German toy maker Lehmann came out with LGB (Lehmann Gross Bahn) trains. These used the 1:32 scale. Many other manufacturers soon joned LGB in making G scale trains.





Sask's ol' buddy, ya got G and Gauge 1 backwards...

G gauge is 1/22.5 scale -and- Gauge 1 is 1/32 scale

Mookie, if you really want a lesson in confusion, just let me know and I'll tell you all about the completely scale wacky world of Large Scale...Vic


And all this time I thought G scale stood for "Golly"....As in golly, we're gonna need alot of room for this stuff.
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Posted by vsmith on Monday, February 23, 2004 6:50 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

Well, here it goes. "Scale" refers to the size of the model train in proportion to a real train and "gauge" is the gauge of the track. Here's a list of the most common scales/gauges going from smallest to largest:
Z- 1:220 scale, 6.5mm gauge (about 1/4 of an inch)
N- 1:160 scale, 9mm gauge or 0.35 inches
TT- 1:120 scale, 12mm gauge (just under half and inch)
HO- 1:87 scale, 3/4 of an inch gauge
S- 1:64 scale, 5/8 of an inch gauge
O- 1:45 scale, 1.25 inch gauge
Gauge 1- 1:22.5 scale, 45mm gauge, about 1.75 inches
G- 1:32 scale, also 45mm gauge
Standard Gauge: close to G and 1

In G scale the G stands for gross, German for large. G scale is sometimes referred to as "large scale". A revival in the popularity of big trains came in 1968 when the German toy maker Lehmann came out with LGB (Lehmann Gross Bahn) trains. These used the 1:32 scale. Many other manufacturers soon joned LGB in making G scale trains.





Sask's ol' buddy, ya got G and Gauge 1 backwards...

G gauge is 1/22.5 scale -and- Gauge 1 is 1/32 scale

Mookie, if you really want a lesson in confusion, just let me know and I'll tell you all about the completely scale wacky world of Large Scale...Vic

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, February 23, 2004 1:19 PM
No Dan - it still isn't. Trust me!

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Posted by dharmon on Monday, February 23, 2004 11:59 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 45144

I'm a bit late on the thread but here we go

Gauge as in 00 or HO refers to a scale/gauge combination.

0 is 1:43.5 in the UK and I believe 1:45 over there
S is a true imperial scale at 3/4" to the foot - I have a couple of friends who model in what they call the perfect scale here in the UK. I'm not sure of the track gauge.
00 The British *** scale of 4mm to the foot running on 16.5mm gauge because our locos were too small for the motors. P4 Protofour) which is the same 4mm to the foot 1:76 scale running on 18.83 exact scale is for the real engineers, I model in EM 18.2mm gauge which is as close as damnit to swearing scale.
TT is pretty much defunct in the UK and was 3mm to the foot - commercial TT used 12mm, exact scale is 14.2mm. The ratio is 1:100

000 was the first name for what became N which again has different ratios depending on where you live.

G is for Gross and was developed in Germany by Lehmann and is pretty much accepted as 1:22.5 on 45mm tracck for European Narrow Gauge.

An interesting NG scale is SM32 which is 16mm to the foot to give exact 2 Foot on (O gauge) 32mm track

and the list goes on and on...

All the best from the other side of the pond.



So, to correct for our European and UK friends....
|---------------------------------------------------| is 33 Centimeters
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 23, 2004 11:39 AM
I'm a bit late on the thread but here we go

Gauge as in 00 or HO refers to a scale/gauge combination.

0 is 1:43.5 in the UK and I believe 1:45 over there
S is a true imperial scale at 3/4" to the foot - I have a couple of friends who model in what they call the perfect scale here in the UK. I'm not sure of the track gauge.
00 The British *** scale of 4mm to the foot running on 16.5mm gauge because our locos were too small for the motors. P4 Protofour) which is the same 4mm to the foot 1:76 scale running on 18.83 exact scale is for the real engineers, I model in EM 18.2mm gauge which is as close as damnit to swearing scale.
TT is pretty much defunct in the UK and was 3mm to the foot - commercial TT used 12mm, exact scale is 14.2mm. The ratio is 1:100

000 was the first name for what became N which again has different ratios depending on where you live.

G is for Gross and was developed in Germany by Lehmann and is pretty much accepted as 1:22.5 on 45mm tracck for European Narrow Gauge.

An interesting NG scale is SM32 which is 16mm to the foot to give exact 2 Foot on (O gauge) 32mm track

and the list goes on and on...

All the best from the other side of the pond.
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Posted by Mookie on Monday, February 23, 2004 6:02 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Madam,,,
And you though my number 8 comparison was bad...
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by drailed1999

MOOKIE !!!??
You havrnt learned to gauge size yet??????? [(-D][:D][:O] LOL
I learned many years ago that what I saw and what he said - never did match!

Ed - I still blush about that!

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, February 23, 2004 6:00 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by drailed1999

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

I------------------------------------------------------------| is one foot.

back to corner/dog house/kev's couch

its the meds..

Hey Dan,
I can sympathize with ya. I just had my right index finger re-attached. I'm on some really good meds too. Ok I need someone to stop the world,I'm getting dizzy!!!!!!!!![:D]
Marty! Who did you point at and what did they do? Dan's is for medical reasons, yours is due to...........?

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