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Ronald Reagans 93rd Birthday is Today
Posted by Willy2 on Friday, February 6, 2004 2:33 PM
Today, I would like to wish Ronald Reagan happy birthday. He is 93 years old. I think we should offer our prayers for him and Nancy Reagan. With his terrible memory loss, he and his family definitely deserve our prayers.

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Posted by ironhorseman on Friday, February 6, 2004 2:44 PM
Wow, I didn't realize it was his birthday. I had a grandma who died of Alzheimers. It's not an easy thing to go through.

Seeing how this forum is turing into politics and other non-train-topics are we gonna see the Reagan bashers in here too? Maybe to keep this train-related we could talk about any movies he's been in with trains or maybe his 1984 re-election train special? I'm reading about in this book called "The President Travels By Train." Did anybody get to see it and what was it like? Where's the pullman he rode in now? My dad remembers another presidential train, the Eisenhower funeral train when came back to Abilene in 1969.

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Posted by Mookie on Friday, February 6, 2004 2:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ironhorseman

Wow, I didn't realize it was his birthday. I had a grandma who died of Alzheimers. It's not an easy thing to go through.

Seeing how this forum is turing into politics and other non-train-topics are we gonna see the Reagan bashers in here too? Maybe to keep this train-related we could talk about any movies he's been in with trains or maybe his 1984 re-election train special? I'm reading about in this book called "The President Travels By Train." Did anybody get to see it and what was it like? Where's the pullman he rode in now? My dad remembers another presidential train, the Eisenhower funeral train when came back to Abilene in 1969.
you talk - fortunately - I am going home, so don't have to chime in on this one!

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, February 6, 2004 3:25 PM
I remember Reagans whistle stop tour of Ohio.Came up the B&O through Deshler Lots of People. No Pics though.
stay safe
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Posted by espeefoamer on Friday, February 6, 2004 4:10 PM
Wow! 93 years old! Happy birthday,you were a great president.[:)]
I guess I,d better duck now,before the manure hits the fan!
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Posted by cherokee woman on Friday, February 6, 2004 6:45 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ironhorseman

Wow, I didn't realize it was his birthday. I had a grandma who died of Alzheimers. It's not an easy thing to go through.

Seeing how this forum is turing into politics and other non-train-topics are we gonna see the Reagan bashers in here too? Maybe to keep this train-related we could talk about any movies he's been in with trains or maybe his 1984 re-election train special? I'm reading about in this book called "The President Travels By Train." Did anybody get to see it and what was it like? Where's the pullman he rode in now? My dad remembers another presidential train, the Eisenhower funeral train when came back to Abilene in 1969.


[:0]I searched and searched, and so far have only found 1 train-related movie with Ronald
Reagan: KINGS ROW from 1942. He played a"carefree charmer who loses both legs in
a rail yard accident." [:(]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, PRESIDENT REAGAN! Even though with the Alhzeimer's, you may not
realize that this is your birthday. But you are in our hearts and our prayers: both you and your family.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 6, 2004 7:33 PM
Amazing, he is still alive at 93 but sent my 22 year old son to die in Beirut in 1983. This isn't political Mr Ironhorseman just heavy annoyance with Commanders-in-Chief who have never seen, nor wanted to, the Elephant.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 6, 2004 8:30 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Willy2

Today, I would like to wish Ronald Reagan happy birthday. He is 93 years old. I think we should offer our prayers for him and Nancy Reagan. With his terrible memory loss, he and his family definitely deserve our prayers.

Willy


Despite having very little political or administrative smarts, and disasterous economic policy,..Ronald Reagan will be remembered as a great President.

Why? Because he was a great actor, a "face man", a central focus to distract our attention while the "button and lever" men pulled the switches behind the scenes.

Maybe we should consider adopting a political paradigm similar in concept to England,with their figurehead queen,..etc.[%-)]
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Posted by greyhounds on Friday, February 6, 2004 11:33 PM
QUOTE: [i]

Despite having very little political or administrative smarts, and disasterous economic policy,..Ronald Reagan will be remembered as a great President.

Why? Because he was a great actor, a "face man", a central focus to distract our attention while the "button and lever" men pulled the switches behind the scenes.

Maybe we should consider adopting a political paradigm similar in concept to England,with their figurehead queen,..etc.[%-)]


Yes, those of us who admire him are all dupes. We know nothing. We were all just taken in by his acting.

I always felt very comfortable with him as President. It took me a while to figure out why.
We're both from small Illinois towns, away from Chicago. There's 40 years difference in our ages, but those towns we grew up in didn't change that much in the first 3/5ths of the 20th Century. We were of the same culture and values. I believe he would have fit right in to one of our family reunions.

I know his foriegn policy certainly changed the world for the better. He said: "Mr. Gorbachov (SP?), tear down this wall." And the wall came down. And millions tasted freedom.

I know his economic policies worked very well. What other President has had a college degree in economics?

I'm sorry your Marine son died in Lebanon. Those deaths tore Reagan apart. But he was trying to stop killing with those Marines. Trying to do the right thing.

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Posted by greyhounds on Friday, February 6, 2004 11:50 PM
One more thing.

How could a man be elected to head his union, be elected Govenor of California twice, and then President of the United States twice, by overwhelming majorities, and have "little political skills"?

Ken Strawbridge
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Posted by rf16a on Saturday, February 7, 2004 12:06 AM
Happy Birthday Mr. President and God bless you and Nancy.
You are a true American hero, the greatest President of the 20th Century and the greatest president of my lifetime.
Thank you for everything you have done for our country.
Sparking economic growth, re building our military, winning the Cold War, and making us believe in ourselves.
I pray that God will help us find a cure for alzheimers and other diseases.
I agree that President Reagan and his family, especially Nancy Reagan, deserve our prayers as do all people suffering from any sickness or disease and all family members and care givers.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 7, 2004 9:01 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by greyhounds

One more thing.

How could a man be elected to head his union, be elected Govenor of California twice, and then President of the United States twice, by overwhelming majorities, and have "little political skills"?

Ken Strawbridge


He had good men working for him.... Remember, he was always making blunders in the"first person", that he would "wriggle" out of later,..giving rise to the name "Teflon president"? Those maneuvers were his advisors work, he did have excellant advisors.

I thought Reagan was a great president too, back at the time, but being popular and being smart are not the same thing,...and Reagan was popular.

I lived in California from 1989-2003, and the memories are not all positive I assure you, he is just given a whole lot of slack because of his health misfortunes these last several years, no one wants to be seen beating up a sick old man.

As far as his Brilliant economic policies, does the name KEATING mean anything to you guys? How about the term "see through office buildings"? The two are related. Trying to stimulate the economy by putting the average construction workers back to work,they loosened up the FED to unprecedented levels, allowing just about anyone to borrow heavily for speculative developement of commercial buildings. Funny thing about "spec" is, eventually you gotta fill them up, or the lender comes to repo.

Big problem comes in when so many buildings have been repo'd, that the last thing the lender wants is yet another empty (hence "see thru") office building, to go with the others they've already had to swallow. Lenders need pyment on account, to pay their investers, or hard assets they can swiftly liquidate . When all the lenders have buildings they need to swiftly liquidate, the market to sell such buildings really bottoms out, and the market goes bust.

That is the Reagan legacy, in some markets, the downtown vacancy rates doubled and tripled, and still in some markets have never recovered...

As far as the fall of communism, yeah right, he PLANNED FROM THE BEGINNING to spend them into bankruptcy... That's some strategy....It makes a great story "after the fact", but do you REALLY believe such was a cognizant strategy "going in"?

Hey, I consider myself a Republican, but if you wanna see a "smart" republican, take a look at Barry Goldwater,....this country would be so much better off had he, and not LBJ, won the '64 election
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 7, 2004 2:51 PM
Well, back in 1983, I was -1 years old, So you'll have to excuse me if i don't know much about him, No i don't know if he was a crap presiodent or a really good one, All I do know is that he cant even recognize his own wife, According to CNN reports.

If i were around in that time, i'd tell you exactly how I felt about him, weather it offended anyone or not. But i'm sorry I don't know much about him, But i do know he is suffering from Rapid memory loss, And does indeed deserve our prayers.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 7, 2004 7:18 PM
For some basic background information on the "see through" office building, check here: http://www.fasb.org/case/case5.shtml
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 7, 2004 7:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by greyhounds

One more thing.

How could a man be elected to head his union, be elected Govenor of California twice, and then President of the United States twice, by overwhelming majorities, and have "little political skills"?

Ken Strawbridge


They didn't call him the "Teflon coated President" for nothing.





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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 8, 2004 12:43 PM
Annother thing that the nearly late and great president Reagan did for us is singlehandedly began destroying Organized Labor with his Air Traffic Controllers Strike antics. No tears in my eyes here for him! All I have to say is one thing.......Happy Halloween agreement of '85.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 8, 2004 3:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ironken

Annother thing that the nearly late and great president Reagan did for us is singlehandedly began destroying Organized Labor with his Air Traffic Controllers Strike antics. No tears in my eyes here for him! All I have to say is one thing.......Happy Halloween agreement of '85.
Ken


Heard about that

He'd never be allowed to do that up here. We have Scab-Prevention laws.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 8, 2004 5:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

I remember Reagans whistle stop tour of Ohio.Came up the B&O through Deshler Lots of People. No Pics though.
stay safe
joe


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Posted by vsmith on Monday, February 9, 2004 12:11 PM
Sorry another who cant offer any well wishes to the Gipper on his 193 birthday.

Too many bad aftereffects of his style of government that still live with the current occupant of the Oval office. Someone recently said "Ronald Reagan proved deficits dont matter" Well someone should ask Bush 1 if deficits mattered in 1994. I recall that wasnt a very good year for him.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 12:33 PM
I think everyone realizes, not everyone will like every president,

However i agree with, If you didn't vote, your not in a place to complain.

And i'm not saying you as in YOU!, VSMITH YOU! i mean you as in a general statement.
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Posted by vsmith on Monday, February 9, 2004 12:53 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

I think everyone realizes, not everyone will like every president,

However i agree with, If you didn't vote, your not in a place to complain.

And i'm not saying you as in YOU!, VSMITH YOU! i mean you as in a general statement.


WHO ME !?!?

Not to worry Kev, I got the gist of your poast[;)]

As for how did The Shrub end up in the Oval Office, well you can blame the Green Party for splitting the Democratic vote with the end result of putting their worst nightmare into office, all because they wanted to "feel good" about "voting thier conscius"

Sorry if any of you out there are Green Party members but I'm really sore on this subject. It was like your choice was Nader, Gore or SATAN. "well I'm going to vote for Nader because I want to vote my conscious and feel good about who I voted for..." BANG, now you got Satan in the oval office, are you happy?.

Havent heard anything about the Green Party in 2004, Boy is the first volunteer going to be sorry when they come around asking for my vote this summer, They'll need counselling and ear surgury after I chew their ear off about why I'm so gratefull to them about putting Shrub-boy into the White House.

You've heard the joke that was going around in 2000?

What does the Green Party stand for?

Guarenteed
Republicans
Elected
Every
November

Bushes belong in the Rose Garden, not in the Oval office.

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Posted by Willy2 on Monday, February 9, 2004 4:43 PM
Even if he didn't do good as president Reagan still deserves a happy birthday! So instead of complaining about his job as president be nice and wi***he person happy birthday! (AFTER wishing him happy birthday you can complain about his job as president!)[:D] I still think that overall he did the job well.

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Posted by eolafan on Monday, February 9, 2004 6:16 PM
God willing we all will live to such a ripe old age, but God forbid we should live out our senior years like Mr. Reagan with Alzheimers. I have a cousin who has it and does not even recognize her own daughter any more....very , very sad.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2004 9:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Willy2

Even if he didn't do good as president Reagan still deserves a happy birthday! So instead of complaining about his job as president be nice and wi***he person happy birthday! (AFTER wishing him happy birthday you can complain about his job as president!)[:D] I still think that overall he did the job well.

Willy




I did wish him a happy birthday,....you can call and ask him,....I'm sure he will remember....LOL...
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Posted by Willy2 on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 4:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates

QUOTE: Originally posted by Willy2

Even if he didn't do good as president Reagan still deserves a happy birthday! So instead of complaining about his job as president be nice and wi***he person happy birthday! (AFTER wishing him happy birthday you can complain about his job as president!)[:D] I still think that overall he did the job well.

Willy




I did wish him a happy birthday,....you can call and ask him,....I'm sure he will remember....LOL...


NEVER have I seen such rudeness! I really don't know how anyone could be so ornery, unkind, and rude as you just were in your post! You just wait until you're a feeble, old man and you get alzheimers! Then I'll go and reply to a happy birthday topic for you. And do you want to know what I'll put in that topic? I'll put that I did wish you a happy birthday and I'll tell everyone to call you and ask you because I'm sure that you'll remember! I'm sure that you'll be LAUGHING OUT LOUD then Mr. AntiGates! Maybe you should change your forum name to: Antil Reagan! Wouldn't that be wonderful? Not only did you just totally insult Reagan, you insulted and made fun of every single person with alzheimers in the world! I don't know how anyone could be so unkind to say such a terrible thing. I'm finally at a loss for words so I don't have much more **** to give you!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 4:37 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Willy2

Originally posted by TheAntiGates

Originally posted by Willy2

Even if he didn't do good as president Reagan still deserves a happy birthday! So instead of complaining about his job as president be nice and wi***he person happy birthday! (AFTER wishing him happy birthday you can complain about his job as president!)[:D] I still think that overall he did the job well.

Willy




Well, there you were telling everyone the pre-requisites we all must comply with before offering our own thoughts,...how polite do you consider that to be? you forgot to say please...

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Posted by cherokee woman on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 5:29 PM
FORGET THE POLITICS HERE, PLEASE.

Don't forget that we are ALL human. That means we are NOT perfect. I know we all like to think of ourselves at times to be PERFECT. But we are not. There is only ONE person who is PERFECT: Our Lord God. And if he can forgive us our stupid thoughts, we should forgive other's stupid thoughts also.

President Reagan is just as human as we are. Maybe he did some things wrong as President, but he does have a disease which is taking his memory more and more each day.

Please, everyone, just wish him a Happy Birthday, and remember him and his family in your prayers. They are going through an awful lot, and they need our prayers. Not our
blasting the man for anything he did in the past. Remember what Jesus told the people in a talk one time: LET HIM WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. We people on this earth are definitely NOT without sin, so we shouldn't be casting stones at anyone.

Enough said.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 6:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cherokee woman

FORGET THE POLITICS HERE, PLEASE.

Don't forget that we are ALL human. That means we are NOT perfect. I know we all like to think of ourselves at times to be PERFECT. But we are not. There is only ONE person who is PERFECT: Our Lord God. And if he can forgive us our stupid thoughts, we should forgive other's stupid thoughts also.

President Reagan is just as human as we are. Maybe he did some things wrong as President, but he does have a disease which is taking his memory more and more each day.

Please, everyone, just wish him a Happy Birthday, and remember him and his family in your prayers. They are going through an awful lot, and they need our prayers. Not our
blasting the man for anything he did in the past. Remember what Jesus told the people in a talk one time: LET HIM WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. We people on this earth are definitely NOT without sin, so we shouldn't be casting stones at anyone.

Enough said.


What makes this different from the superbowl thread? Reagan was a politician, hence politics.

And forgive me, but a lecture on the omnipotent fairy tale didn't really do anything for me....
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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 6:09 PM
Willy2,

Lets see, it is larva, pupa, then hatching as adult in the metamorphosis to become a butterfly?

So, from all of this, you can draw the assumption that some dont get past the pupa stage very quickly?

Wait a while, it takes longer for some than others.

Draw solice from the fact that at some time in the future....

Stay Frosty,
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Posted by Willy2 on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 8:28 PM
Ed and cherokee woman: Thanks to both of you! [^]

Ed: Did you look in my profile and see that I like butterflies before typing that analogy? Or did you just come up with it as a very good example? Whatever the case, I think that it is very clever and I really like it![tup]

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