Trains.com

Winona Bridge Railway

5901 views
5 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    March 2016
  • From: Burbank IL (near Clearing)
  • 13,540 posts
Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, February 6, 2004 6:54 AM
As mentioned above, the Winona Bridge Railway has been around for a while. If you look through old editions of Moody's Transportation Manual, you will find scores of paper railroad companies that existed to build bridges, tunnels, branch lines, etc. but were never absorbed into the parent road for a variety of reasons.

The prime example of the use of such a subsidiary to effect a change in work rules is Guilford's use of Springfield Terminal to lease its other railroads in order to use the more liberal work rules in ST's union contracts.
The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 5, 2004 4:36 PM
Wsn't Gerald Grinstine created the Winona Bridge Company for Intermodal Trains from CHICAGO TO SEATTLE?
  • Member since
    December 2001
  • From: Denver / La Junta
  • 10,820 posts
Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, February 5, 2004 12:24 PM
Winona Bridge was (the bridge partially burned and was removed by 1990) a jointly owned bridge over the Mississippi River between Winona, MN and Marshland, Ws originally built as a shortcut to the west. It was part owned by predecessors of BN, CNW & GB&W(FRV)...In 1985 BN bought out CNW's share of the bridge and set up a shell company to create a competitive route to move intermodal trains between Chicago and Seattle and circumvent some absurd union work rules (SShaves "Bad Taste"). The venture failed before it started and the bridge burned in 1990 and was removed as a threat to river traffic. The railroads that meet there now are DM&E, CN-IC , CP (Soo) and BNSF with no bridge across the river. The Winona Bridge case is frequently cited in STB procedeings (FD-31163) in certain trackage rights and line embargo cases involving "bridge rights" for shortlines ....It is still a shell company without a bridge.... If DM&E happens, the bridge may return as a negotiating chip with BNSF over access to Wisconsin and the CN system.

Mudchicken
Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
  • Member since
    July 2001
  • From: Shelbyville, Kentucky
  • 1,967 posts
Posted by SSW9389 on Thursday, February 5, 2004 12:15 PM
Incorporated in Minnesota on July 14, 1890, the Winona Bridge Railway Company began operating in September 1891. The company owned a bridge between Winona, MN and East Winona, WI. Mileage was 1.12 miles and the entire capital stock of the company was owned by the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy and the Green Bay & Western. Line was leased by the two railroads under contract by lease on September 14, 1938. Data from Moody's.

Don't know the rest of the story.
COTTON BELT: Runs like a Blue Streak!
  • Member since
    June 2001
  • From: Lombard (west of Chicago), Illinois
  • 13,681 posts
Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, February 5, 2004 11:45 AM
I vaguely remember that it was a company being set up by BN to circumvent some union requirements and reduce expenses. I don't remember the particulars, nor did I know that units had been relettered (or sublettered). All I remember is that it left a bad taste in my mouth, so to speak.

Carl

Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!)

CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM)

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Winona Bridge Railway
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 5, 2004 10:39 AM
In the late 70's and into the 80's, I noticed BN lettered some locos with WBR reporting marks. Does anyone have information as to why? Is WBR real trackage ( and if so, how many miles, where?), or is it a some kind of business arrangement, (ie, a "shell" company)?

Join our Community!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

Search the Community

Newsletter Sign-Up

By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy