"If I may be permitted, affect is also a noun used in the field of psychology, with emphasis on the "a". It is one's outward demeanor, mood, or expression. Most of us are either "down" or up-beat. In my field we say a person has a flat affect when they are absent, subdued, depressed, disinterested, but you can also say a poker player exhibits a flat affect."
Selector makes a great point. "Patient self-submitted, exhibiting flattened affect" (AF-fekt) is hospito-medico talk, roughly, for "Guy walked into the E.R. looking really dulled-out."
Why harp on this? The same principle applies to a term WE use correctly and need not be the least bit bashful about: "The unit train consists (con-SISTS) of 130 loaded coal cars. We decided that such a consist (CON-sist) requires D.P.'s." See? Same idea: noun stresses first syllable, verb the second (or last) syllable. - a. s.
PS: Altho' I used to teach English grammar and Business English I'm not allowed to hand out citations outside of Illinois. Not that I like to do that kind of thing anyway.
edbenton wrote: That idea would fail simply for one reason. Wal-Mart does things their way or the highway. Sam Walton HATED the Railroads service levels why do you think all of his DC's were serviced by trucks only. Also he realized early on that trucks went everywere and faster than the RR's ever did. Plus the DC's are built on a very severe JIT delevery system sometimes there are trucks delivering product and it is going on another one next to it. Try having your apples in the trailer being checked in and 4 forklifts waiting for them to load onto trucks that are late leaving simply because the guy ahead of you flipped over, Thanks alot PRIME that night. The dry side is even worse they ship out butt paper by the pallet to the stores if you are late the stores run out. Roadrailers work for industrys like Cereal auto parts and such were the plants are dedicated and runs are consistant. DC work for Wal-Mart or any retail store you never know were or when you are dropping or picking up same with stores. Also the Stores would not know what to do with the Roadrailer style trailer and suspensions. Also Wal-Mart plans everyexpense done to the penny including fuel for the trucks having to all of a sudden pay for switching and then RR crews on runs of 300 miles or LESS and that is the run of a Wal-Mart driver would not work.
That idea would fail simply for one reason. Wal-Mart does things their way or the highway. Sam Walton HATED the Railroads service levels why do you think all of his DC's were serviced by trucks only. Also he realized early on that trucks went everywere and faster than the RR's ever did. Plus the DC's are built on a very severe JIT delevery system sometimes there are trucks delivering product and it is going on another one next to it. Try having your apples in the trailer being checked in and 4 forklifts waiting for them to load onto trucks that are late leaving simply because the guy ahead of you flipped over, Thanks alot PRIME that night. The dry side is even worse they ship out butt paper by the pallet to the stores if you are late the stores run out.
Roadrailers work for industrys like Cereal auto parts and such were the plants are dedicated and runs are consistant. DC work for Wal-Mart or any retail store you never know were or when you are dropping or picking up same with stores. Also the Stores would not know what to do with the Roadrailer style trailer and suspensions. Also Wal-Mart plans everyexpense done to the penny including fuel for the trucks having to all of a sudden pay for switching and then RR crews on runs of 300 miles or LESS and that is the run of a Wal-Mart driver would not work.
OK, let me defend my idea of using RoadRailers to deliver to Wal-Mart distribution centers using RoadRailers. There was no mention on my part of delivering to their stores using RoadRailers. The movements from the DC's to the stores are, and always will be, by truck.
Wal-Mart does successfully use rail intermodal to move products to its DC's. Two examples are their DC at BNSF's Logistic Park near Joliet, IL and the relatively new FEC intermodal terminal near Ft. Pierce, FL. The latter was built to provide service to a Wal-Mart DC.
Wal-Mart DC's often ae located significant distances from rail intermodal terminals. (The DC's are placed to serve the stores.) Because these DC's receive a lot of freight this makes rail intermodal expensive due to the high truck delivery cost from the railhead.
This cost could be reduced by establishing a low cost intermodal terminal near the DC. Becuase they require little terminal investment, RoadRailers are ideal for operating through such a terminal.
In my specific example, UP could bring a container to Chicago on a stack train, load in on a RoadRailer (or RailRunner) chassis instead of a highway chassis, then move it to near the WM DC in Tomah, WI using existing train service. Addistional cost to the UP would be low.
It does, and will, work.
I heard stories of Sysco trying rail service in Baltimore only to find themselves charged for the railcar sitting on thier dock until SYSCO unloaded at THIER time which was sometimes hours or days after the railcar got spotted.
I bet those charges ate them up for a time.
Come to think of it, you still might sit for 24-30 hours getting unloaded. We did once but had a team that day. Tv, cooking food, more tv and more cooking and naps waiting. By the end of the second day we were stir crazy and climbing the walls. lol.
droc30 wrote: .i think its a great idea if wal-mart try the roadrailer idea out.
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i think its a great idea if wal-mart try the roadrailer idea out.
Really? where in their distribution chain do they reload and then reship by rail?
My visualization of their operation has the containers coming into port, and traveling by rail to a huge distribution point . There it is inventoried, and shipped out by truck to the stores, as needed.
I just don't see the service point that roadrailers would serve.
You'd want to at least start by using the RailRunner system (or alternative) to move containers. A terminal for such a system only needs:
1) An unused/underutilized side track near the DC
that sound like a great idea if you ask me.
only if wal-mart can find a way to adept there truck trailer to the roadrailer system like many other trucking companies has done they there truck trailers. wal-mart can make a killing in get there goods to the store faster.
there alote of unused railroad all across this country. even some in towns where a wal-mart dc locate. if not that. there alote of unused land that is near a major rail line or a unused rail line that wal-mart and buy and turn it into there roadrailer center for there truck trailer.
all they have to do is find a way to work a deal out with the railroad company that own that rail line and help update that track so that they can have a fast and easy way of getting good close to store where a wal-mart dc maybe in a couple of hours a way from that store.
i know it may sound stupid. but i think it can work if wal-mart took the time to do there homework on the idea. not only would it get the goods to the store faster but it also will cut on on time of how long a trucker has to be on the road with the price of fuel going up.
hmmm....fractional ownership of a VLJ....an idea to watch for! It would be cheaper to operate, VLJ's would only require one pilot...and use less fuel....and cost less. Something to watch for....
Wonder if you could do fractional ownership of a private rail car like that? Hey, pick me up Anywhere, take me to Chi Town....
JSGreen wrote: Falls Valley RR wrote: The airport is irrevelant unless Corperate keeps Jets for the Big Bosses.I talked to one of their pilots at an FBO one time...their jet was down, and waiting for a replacement to continue the trip....he claimed they have the second biggest corporate air force in the country...Should we be glad they havent branched into cut rate air transportation??
Falls Valley RR wrote: The airport is irrevelant unless Corperate keeps Jets for the Big Bosses.
The airport is irrevelant unless Corperate keeps Jets for the Big Bosses.
I talked to one of their pilots at an FBO one time...their jet was down, and waiting for a replacement to continue the trip....he claimed they have the second biggest corporate air force in the country...
Should we be glad they havent branched into cut rate air transportation??
Well.. I cannot stay away from airplanes in general, Im thinking that the VLJ's (Very light jets) backed by scheduling software and availible 24/7 on demand will be the next big thing in Bizavaition.
Imagine a little cottage inventor working out of a garage being able to whistle up one of the VLJ's and get aboard in a General Aviation field somewhere with sufficient runway and flit over to Fayetteville to pitch the idea to walmart for example. Hell of alot cheaper than Commercial, Faster than security lines and probably execute the trip in... say... 30 minutes instead of 4 hours by ground or whatever.
The cost? Well... if enough people participate the VLJ's will be much cheaper than those blingage burdened Gulfstreams or Dassaults.
Last I looked at airlines, Jet Blue has the corner on cutrate transport but I consider Southwest the best of the bunch with thier B737's.
What do you think can happen when local airports with perhaps a strip 5000 feet long can suddenly originate and ternimate flights all over the USA at or better than the big Commericial airlines can do out of thier controlled airspace?
Falls Valley RR wrote:The airport is irrevelant unless Corperate keeps Jets for the Big Bosses.
selector wrote: CShaveRR wrote: Norris, your title is correct as it stands. Complicated pair of words there, but if Wal-Mart has an effect on railroads, it affects them."Effect" could also be a verb, as in "Wal-Mart could effect a change in the way railroads do business." That could really affect the railroads.Now that I've effectively infected this thread, I'll effect a retreat and watch how I've affected things.Affectionately,If I may be permitted, affect is also a noun used in the field of psychology, with emphasis on the "a". It is one's outward demeanor, mood, or expression. Most of us are either "down" or up-beat. In my field we say a person has a flat affect when they are absent, subdued, depressed, disinterested, but you can also say a poker player exhibits a flat affect.-CrandellP.S. - I have enjoyed the thread so far. Maybe I have a thicker skin these days, or the knives aren't...um...honed quite so much this time around.
CShaveRR wrote: Norris, your title is correct as it stands. Complicated pair of words there, but if Wal-Mart has an effect on railroads, it affects them."Effect" could also be a verb, as in "Wal-Mart could effect a change in the way railroads do business." That could really affect the railroads.Now that I've effectively infected this thread, I'll effect a retreat and watch how I've affected things.Affectionately,
Norris, your title is correct as it stands. Complicated pair of words there, but if Wal-Mart has an effect on railroads, it affects them.
"Effect" could also be a verb, as in "Wal-Mart could effect a change in the way railroads do business." That could really affect the railroads.
Now that I've effectively infected this thread, I'll effect a retreat and watch how I've affected things.
Affectionately,
If I may be permitted, affect is also a noun used in the field of psychology, with emphasis on the "a". It is one's outward demeanor, mood, or expression. Most of us are either "down" or up-beat. In my field we say a person has a flat affect when they are absent, subdued, depressed, disinterested, but you can also say a poker player exhibits a flat affect.
-Crandell
P.S. - I have enjoyed the thread so far. Maybe I have a thicker skin these days, or the knives aren't...um...honed quite so much this time around.
For what it's worth, in addition to the couple of posts here, I've also gotten a few PM's about effect/affect. And yet, like a lot of things, the answer is still muddy.
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
Kbar is sharp, but am exercising restraint. =)
Cheers.
Actually, the corporate jets fly out of the little Rogers Airport and not the newer regional airport, XNA.
You said there are 10 Supercenters within hours in any direction. I don't doubt that for a moment. In the northwest corner of the state, there was the one in Bentonville, one in Rogers, a newer one in Pineville, MO and a newer one on the southside of Rogers, south of the Pinnacle area. But I don't remember any but the one DC. And it was huge.
I know there is also a DC north of Denton, TX. I think there is a BNSF line that runs behind it, but I don't know if the railroad services the DC.
There are many DC's over here on the east side of Arkansas. I think there are 2 in Searcy, 10 Supercenters within an hours drive in any direction.
I worked inside a DC inside Searcy for 4 hours as a temp once. All we did was move stuff from 12 trailers to 12 trailers while yard jockeys kept replacing these 12 doors with more trailers, some empty, some partially loaded and others full needing breaking down into several trailers.
I think we had toys in one, that one was distrubited to 4 more trailers as partial loads.
Back to the topic, please.
I know Wal-Mart is headquartered in Bentonville, AR. I used to drive by it everyday. There main distribution center is south of there, out by the airport. The land is open, unlike the hills of Bella Vista, or down by Fayetteville so I can see it makes sense to build such a large facility with such easy terrain.
But there is the Arkansas and Missouri Railway running freight on the other side of I-540. When Wal-mart built this newer distribution center, couldn't they have built it closer to the railroad instead of the airport with the idea of using it? Or does the A & M offer the right connections? The distribution center is not accessible from I-540 so being close to the airport doesn't have a trucking advantage.
tina
Dweezil wrote: doghouse wrote: Dweezil wrote:it was an arbitrary reference Sometimes I just don't know where you're coming from. The number 6 was an arbitrary number, It could have been 9, it could have been "x" for all i care...the value was arbitrary.
doghouse wrote: Dweezil wrote:it was an arbitrary reference Sometimes I just don't know where you're coming from.
Dweezil wrote:it was an arbitrary reference
Sometimes I just don't know where you're coming from.
The number 6 was an arbitrary number, It could have been 9, it could have been "x" for all i care...the value was arbitrary.
From the link: Under Philosophy, 4th paragraph.........Even if a person has a goal, they may choose to attempt to achieve it in ways that may be considered arbitary.
I like that.
Murphy Siding wrote: I had a PM from you earlier today, but couldn't open it, due to a security thing on the 'pooter at work. Now, I see it's gone. Could you send it again please. -Thanks
Sorry Murph, it really wasn't that important, never mind.
edblysard wrote: Sybil,When, exactly, were you put in charge of what is or is not important to other people?
Sybil,
When, exactly, were you put in charge of what is or is not important to other people?
I'll get back to you on that when I've decided that it's important that you know, ok?
Dweezil wrote: Murphy Siding wrote: Most people can see the undeniable writing style of TheAntiGates / Convicted One/ Dweezil. If you believe in what you write, why the different identities? We're, for the most part. an anonymous forum. Do you need to be *more anonymous* sometimes? I don't get it. Maybe it's best to chalk it up to the same reason your god put all the stars in the sky, ...for your wondermentMaybe it's not important that you get it?
Murphy Siding wrote: Most people can see the undeniable writing style of TheAntiGates / Convicted One/ Dweezil. If you believe in what you write, why the different identities? We're, for the most part. an anonymous forum. Do you need to be *more anonymous* sometimes? I don't get it.
Maybe it's best to chalk it up to the same reason your god put all the stars in the sky, ...for your wonderment
Maybe it's not important that you get it?
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I don't get it, either. But you're absolutely right -- it really isn't that important.
doghouse wrote: ps has this thread been hijacked?
ps has this thread been hijacked?
Kinda like all of your different names. I think I told you once back when you were known as "The Anti-Gates." Many of the things you say I can't agree with, but I do respect what you say. Sometimes I just don't know where you're coming from. Oh well.
nanaimo73 wrote: Dweezil wrote: nanaimo73 wrote:FutureModal had a lot of bitterness for BNSF, with the opinion that they were helping the Chinese destroy your economy. Is that how you view Walmart? If that WAS the case, the correct place to fix the blame would be on the politicians, for favoring capital over labor....but then that would be a forbidden topic. Rather than favoring capital over labor, your politicians favor the military over infrastructure. Isn't that what the the American population wants?
Dweezil wrote: nanaimo73 wrote:FutureModal had a lot of bitterness for BNSF, with the opinion that they were helping the Chinese destroy your economy. Is that how you view Walmart? If that WAS the case, the correct place to fix the blame would be on the politicians, for favoring capital over labor....but then that would be a forbidden topic.
nanaimo73 wrote:FutureModal had a lot of bitterness for BNSF, with the opinion that they were helping the Chinese destroy your economy. Is that how you view Walmart?
If that WAS the case, the correct place to fix the blame would be on the politicians, for favoring capital over labor....but then that would be a forbidden topic.
The Military keeps us free. Otherwise the Bad Guys will come here and fight us in Main Street USA. Dont forget that we are a Volunteer Force and willingly go fight them.
The Politicians dont always know what they want so we sort it for em every few years.
nanaimo73 wrote: Rather than favoring capital over labor, your politicians favor the military over infrastructure. Isn't that what the the American population wants?
Why yes, I feel McCain will do WONDERS for Amtrak.
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