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Rails in St. Louis?
Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 2, 2001 12:02 AM
Does anyone know what railroads motive power would be seen in Saint Louis MO during the mid 1950's?

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Posted by thirdrail1 on Thursday, August 2, 2001 8:38 AM
Alton & Southern
Terminal Railroad Association
Illinois Central
Gulf, Mobile & Ohio
Chicago & Eastern Illinois
Illinois Terminal (Electric)
Pennsylvania
New York Central
Baltimore & Ohio
Nickel Plate
Wabash
Southern
Louisville & Nashville
Manufacturers Railway
Missouri Pacific
Missouri-Kansas-Texas
Rock Island
St. Louis-Southwestern
Frisco

I am probably forgetting at least one!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 2, 2001 8:38 AM
Not much help, I have seen a book on RRs in K.C.,Mo. This book was not small and contained a LONG list for that nearby town. If you don't get better help I'll try to find the title/author.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 3, 2001 1:39 PM
Thank you so much! I appreciate the info. I was wondering though, didn't the Santa Fe and Union pacific have connections there as well?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 3, 2001 4:46 PM
There may have been a few ways to see Union Pacific power such as on the Norfolk & Western, Missouri Pacific,and St. Louis Southwestern (Cotton Belt), (and I am probably forgetting one or two), but the chance of seeing Santa Fe in St Louis was close to nil. The closest ATSF came was in north central MO at Marcelline. ATSF just did not interchange on a regular basis with any "native" St Louis roads.
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Posted by thirdrail1 on Saturday, August 4, 2001 8:50 AM
James, the nearest the ATSF or UP came to St. Louis in the 1950's was Kansas City and it was unlikely that they ran power through, although it is possible UP did with the Wabash, as they did run a through passenger service with WAB. The nearest N&W came to St. Louis in the 1950's was Cincinnati, Ohio!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 4, 2001 12:11 PM
Thank you so much for the info. I appreciate it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 4, 2001 12:16 PM
The reason I was questioning ATSF is that it seams like I had read somewhere that ATSF interchanged passenger service there with NYC. I think it was in an old Model Railroader, maybe "Great Model Railroads 1995." Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 4:51 AM
A book titled "Saint Louis Union Stations & Its Railroads" (I think that's the title...I could be a word or two off) has a section dedicated to each of the several railroads that ran trains into Union Station, and a foldout of an old timetable. Give amazon.com a try.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 1, 2003 1:03 AM
I AM LOOKING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THE COTTON BELT BLUE STREAK LINE. I HAVE A BRASS PIECE WITH A DEISEL ENGINE #900. IT SEEMS TO BE A COMMEMORATIVE TO THAT LINE OR ENGINE. THIS WAS MY GRANDFATHERS AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS RAILROAD.
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Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, November 1, 2003 7:40 AM
Lori 911
check under historical societies in this web page.Trains has a lot of links to many of them.And welcome to the forums!
stay safe
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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, November 1, 2003 9:40 AM
One railroad missing from the long list higher up in this thread was the Litchfield & Madison, over which the Chicago & North Western reached St. Louis. This line was merged into the C&NW in the late 1950s.

Actually, that line didn't cross the river, nor did the East St. Louis Junction Railway.

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Posted by techguy57 on Saturday, November 1, 2003 4:29 PM
I have another St. Louis question. I know Anheiser-Busch receives and ships by rail from the St Louis Bottling facilty (more like small town given all the land they have). Who provides the motive power, and what types of loads are common? I'm assuming grain but I imagine there are a couple of chemical cars and that finished product goes on boxcars. Can anyone give me any info on any of these questions?

Mike
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 6, 2003 12:04 PM
A-B's own Manufacturers Railway provides the power just click on the link to my website below, (stlouisrail.tk) and then click on Manufacturers Railway, this will provide you with the info you need.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 6, 2003 3:00 PM
James H
Greenfrog productions has a video titled "St Louis Sojourn" that shows all the passenger trains that served St Louis in the 1960's. This was filmed in 1968.
http://www.greenfrog.com/

Larry

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