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Originally posted by adrianspeeder OK, Here is the scoop. #2 is for summer, #1 is for winter. When it is lower than ten degrees below 0, i add a anti gel fluid in my diesel pickup. I use a block heater when it gets around 20 or below for faster starts, and the use of the defroster right away This is exactly how I had to do,when I had my diesel pickups. However there was one small problem; remembering to UNPLUG before emergancy runs. Had to btake a little extra time to do this. Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!! Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:34 PM Back in the old days, oil fired steam locomotives used fuel oil grades which were thicker (but cheaper) than #2 diesel (i.e. Bunker C grade.) To get them to flow, a steam line was run through the fuel oil bunker to heat it and to get it to flow. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 1, 2004 3:25 PM The return fuel will warm the fuel. but if a unit is in extreme cold, RR's will put fuel heaters that are hooked to the engine cooling system water going to the radiators Reply Edit oltmannd Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: Atlanta 11,968 posts Posted by oltmannd on Monday, February 2, 2004 2:39 PM For the most part, the RRs use fuel preheaters. Even if you blend #1 with #2 diesel, you can't get the cloud point and pour points of the fuels low enough to get you through the worst days. The fuel pump sucks the fuel though a preheater which is warmed with engine coolant, the fuel then flows to the engine, which takes what it needs, and the rest returns to the fuel tank. This keeps the fuel tank warm and toasty! -Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/) Reply dt8089 Member sinceMay 2001 From: US 12 posts Posted by dt8089 on Monday, February 2, 2004 2:48 PM The real scoop. We fuel locomotives in the Chicago area. The railroad orders a 60-40 blend. That is 60% #2 oil and 40% #1 oil. This keeps the cloud point around minus 20 degrees. Dan Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 7:00 PM Thanks for the insights, fans! I know a lot more now than I did a couple of weeks ago! Reply Edit sooblue Member sinceApril 2002 From: US 446 posts Posted by sooblue on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:00 PM Here's a new twist on fuel, There is a new law taking effect in MN, though I don't know if it will include RRs. After you cross our borders you will fill your diesel "what ever" with a diesel/soybean mixture. One of my friends is the spokesman for the oil distributors in MN. He also owns a distribution co. He told me that soybean oil gels at a higher temp then diesel does and that means that soy oil has to be kept unmixed with diesel and kept heated, below 32 deg. The headache is the need for a duplicate set of storage tanks and heaters for the soy oil. Then the consumer has their own problems after the oils are mixed and in your tank. [banghead] Soybean oil is mandated in MN. I'm not sure when the law takes effect since I drive a gasser [;)] Sooblue Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:19 PM Is that Soybean oil the same idea as the Bio-Diesel (made from deep fryer fat I believe) that people are starting to put in their cars and trucks that burn diesel, or are those two different things? Reply Edit jchnhtfd Member sinceJanuary 2001 From: US 1,537 posts Posted by jchnhtfd on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:03 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by macguy Is that Soybean oil the same idea as the Bio-Diesel (made from deep fryer fat I believe) that people are starting to put in their cars and trucks that burn diesel, or are those two different things? same overall idea, anyway, yeah. With the same problems[:(] (and apparent advantages)[8)]: if you can keep the stuff from gelling, it burns a little cleaner and its better for the eco types. The 'if you can keep the stuff from gelling' is the ringer in the deck, however. Even mixed with #1 I have heard that there may be problems. Sounds like a good idea, though -- as these things often do. Anyone know if the MN law applies to railroads as well? If so... I hope those diesels running through the state have big enough tanks to get through without refueling![:D] Jamie Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:47 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by macguy Is that Soybean oil the same idea as the Bio-Diesel (made from deep fryer fat I believe) that people are starting to put in their cars and trucks that burn diesel, or are those two different things? They tried that at a university here in Cal.. When the trucks and busses went by, they smelled like chinese food. It made me go eat. [:D] Reply Edit Mookie Member sinceJune 2001 From: US 13,488 posts Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:51 PM Oh Marty! [:D] She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw Reply adrianspeeder Member sinceMarch 2002 From: Harrisburg PA / Dover AFB DE 1,482 posts Posted by adrianspeeder on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 3:58 PM The guy down the street got ahold of some biodiesel somewhere and showed me what it smelled like in his diesel. It made me hungry. I would burn it in the summer, but i have enough headaches in the cold to worry about biodiesel gelling. Adrianspeeder USAF TSgt C-17 Aircraft Maintenance Flying Crew Chief & Flightline Avionics Craftsman Reply sooblue Member sinceApril 2002 From: US 446 posts Posted by sooblue on Thursday, February 19, 2004 8:27 PM tank heaters for everyone! Buy a tank of soybean oil and we'll throw in a tank heater (extention cord xtra) Sooblue Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 20, 2004 7:09 PM Ok. You pay the freght??????????????? LOL Reply Edit Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. 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Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!!
-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/)
QUOTE: Originally posted by macguy Is that Soybean oil the same idea as the Bio-Diesel (made from deep fryer fat I believe) that people are starting to put in their cars and trucks that burn diesel, or are those two different things?
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