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CSX Acquiring Quality Carriers Inc.

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CSX Acquiring Quality Carriers Inc.
Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 9:37 PM

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Posted by SD60MAC9500 on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 10:07 PM
 

This is a great move on CSX's part. It gives them access to new customers who aren't connected to a spur. Maybe we'll get double stack domestic tanktainer service out of this.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 10:32 PM

     This could only mean one thing- the end of trucking. The trucking industry must now obviously throw in the towel to the railroads. Mischief


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Posted by zugmann on Thursday, May 13, 2021 6:48 AM

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     This could only mean one thing- the end of trucking. The trucking industry must now obviously throw in the towel to the railroads. 

 

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, May 13, 2021 7:48 AM

A good move, and what I've been saying all along.. railroads should look at buying trucking carriers to round out their services and gain access to other markets...i.e. become transportation companies instead of railroads. What's next? Maybe the purchase of a large LTL carrier (Old Dominion or Fedex maybe). with the growing importance on home/last mile delivery that might be a good idea. Imagine if CSX could go to a company like Amazon and offer a one stop solution that includes  delivery right to the end consumer's door! 

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Posted by Backshop on Thursday, May 13, 2021 7:52 AM

Don't forget, UP owned Overnite and it didn't work out.  They sold it to UPS, who just recently resold it to a Canadian corporation.

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, May 13, 2021 8:13 AM

Backshop

Don't forget, UP owned Overnite and it didn't work out.  They sold it to UPS, who just recently resold it to a Canadian corporation.

 

 

That was long ago and in a different era. It was a poor fit for a number of reasons that had nothing to do with the underlying premise that a combination like this might be beneficial. Now we have Amazon, home delivery is rapidly superseding the shopping mall.. likely the mall as we've come to know it will be a thing of the past  within a generation. Railroads today have a wonderful opportunity to get in on this action by broadening their services. There's limited opportunity in merging railroads now as any mergers would entail significant concessions to competitors.. better opportunities lie in combining with other carriers and modes. Opportunites abound..  

 

 

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Posted by SD60MAC9500 on Thursday, May 13, 2021 9:02 AM
 

Backshop

Don't forget, UP owned Overnite and it didn't work out.  They sold it to UPS, who just recently resold it to a Canadian corporation.

 

UP couldn't fit the LTL operation into its portfolio nor could UPS... Overnite has a reputation for being an expensive asset.. Then again judging by YRC performance the LTL market could use some "adjustment"..

 
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Posted by MP173 on Thursday, May 13, 2021 9:09 AM

PST coming soon.  Precision Scheduled Trucking with tractors hauling triples (or more).

Seriously...not sure how this fits in with the rail portfolio.  Traditionally trucking margins are much tighter than the rails...with lots of assets on the books.  

Is this a sign that the cut to the bone PSR is over and railroads are looking for topline revenue growth?

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Posted by Euclid on Thursday, May 13, 2021 9:10 AM

If railroads have a weakness in marketing service, how are they going to compete in the trucking business?

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Posted by MP173 on Thursday, May 13, 2021 9:22 AM

They should leave the management team in place...otherwise I agree.

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Posted by Backshop on Thursday, May 13, 2021 9:34 AM

SD60MAC9500
 

 

 
Backshop

Don't forget, UP owned Overnite and it didn't work out.  They sold it to UPS, who just recently resold it to a Canadian corporation.

 

 

 

UP couldn't fit the LTL operation into its portfolio nor could UPS... Overnite has a reputation for being an expensive asset.. Then again judging by YRC performance the LTL market could use some "adjustment"..

 
 

What was "interesting" was that Overnite was a nonunion carrier when UPS bought them.  Then, UPS had them become union.  IIRC, UPS bought out their employees pension plan from the Teamsters, the only company to do that.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Thursday, May 13, 2021 9:38 AM

[quote user="MP173"]

PST coming soon.  Precision Scheduled Trucking with tractors hauling triples (or more).

Seriously...not sure how this fits in with the rail portfolio.  Traditionally trucking margins are much tighter than the rails...with lots of assets on the books.  

Is this a sign that the cut to the bone PSR is over and railroads are looking for topline revenue growth?

Ed

[/quote]

ED;   Recall, that a number of years back; [into the 1960's].  THE RAILROADS WERE in the TRUCKING BUSNESS!    A number of railroads owned their own trucking operations, in conjunction, with their LTL Freight Operations. [or maybe, BECAUSE, of those operations*(?) 

 The 'watershed'  seemed to be around the nationwide U.P.S. strike of 1997, generally, known as "The Big Brownout":        The UPS purchase of Overnite Transportation came in the wake of that strike.  {Overnite Trans had been 'big in the area of the Central area[Virginia,and the Carolina's] of the East Coast, and had started to expand out nationally,when the  Strike of'97 happened.  Another national carrier that collapsed in the same time frame was TIME-DC, and it folded. }

And just to 'cap' that 'other than rail ' operations era; was BN iowned, and operated its own cargo airline, based out of Ft,.Wayne,In . Burlington Northern Air Freight.  and do not forget, that Santa Fe owned a large BUS operation, known  as Santa Fe Trailways(?).  Sigh

 

 

 

 


 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, May 13, 2021 10:11 AM

North American Van Lines was purchased by NS and much of its management provided their trucking expertise when Triple Crown Services was established.

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Posted by Backshop on Thursday, May 13, 2021 10:17 AM

Time DC folded well  before 1997.  Doing some googling, it looks like it was 1988.  Many of the old time union LTL carriers folded in the 70-80s.

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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, May 13, 2021 11:09 AM

Either the corporate law and risk management people were asleep -or- there are alarm bells still going off after they were bypassed.

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Posted by Backshop on Thursday, May 13, 2021 2:38 PM

mudchicken

Either the corporate law and risk management people were asleep -or- there are alarm bells still going off after they were bypassed.

 

How so?

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, May 13, 2021 8:13 PM

MP173
PST coming soon.  Precision Scheduled Trucking with tractors hauling triples (or more).

Seriously...not sure how this fits in with the rail portfolio.  Traditionally trucking margins are much tighter than the rails...with lots of assets on the books.  

Is this a sign that the cut to the bone PSR is over and railroads are looking for topline revenue growth?

Ed

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Posted by rdamon on Friday, May 14, 2021 6:10 AM

Imagine this as a driverless vehicle.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Friday, May 14, 2021 9:29 PM

MP173

PST coming soon.  Precision Scheduled Trucking with tractors hauling triples (or more).

Seriously...not sure how this fits in with the rail portfolio.  Traditionally trucking margins are much tighter than the rails...with lots of assets on the books.  

Is this a sign that the cut to the bone PSR is over and railroads are looking for topline revenue growth?

Ed

 

The other day I got my Teamster (Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen are affliated with them) magazine.  A small article caught my eye.

Employees at ABF Freight received a bonus of 1 percent of their annual pay because ABF made it's financial goal for the year.  Their current contract calls for the bonus to be paid if the company's OR is less than 96 percent.  ABF's OR for the last year was 95.3%, so the bonus was paid.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch er, yard office.  UP is still trying to get down to 55%.  Grasping for anything to cut, when there's very little place to do so anymore.

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Posted by JPS1 on Friday, May 14, 2021 9:41 PM

rdamon
 Imagine this as a driverless vehicle.

 
I lived in Australia from 1999 to 2004.  I did not have a car, but I had a Ducati Monster, which I rode all over the country.  Nothing raises the pucker factor quite like seeing one of these babies coming at you on the road to Alice Springs. 

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