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The 5000 Factors of Dr. TSB, or, How I learned to stop worrying and love the blame...
Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 1:00 PM

We need a thread to take all the posts about the Lac Megantic accident and 'all that it implies' out of the thread about the RBMN derailment non-event thread.  This is a modest proposal for such a 'safe place' where the glue might be ever more perfectly homogenized without distraction, where the weary can cease from their troubling and the wicked be at rest.

(MODS: is there any way to move the extraneous posts from 'there' to 'here' without the post dated screwing up displayed order?)

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 1:03 PM

Let's start with Euclid listing what he thinks the 18 fingers, I mean factors ought to be defined as, and then wheeling out their relative importances as sources for blame.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 2:12 PM

Or we could just re-read this thread:

http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/p/265825/3004282.aspx?page=1

I really have no desire to continue attempting to flay a equine skeleton.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 4:12 PM

I concur, stick a fork in the Lac-Megantic tragedy analysis, it's done.

By the way, has ANYONE found out the cause of the RBMN derailment?  It seems to have been lost in the fog if anyone has.

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Posted by selector on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 4:20 PM

What is your aim, OM? Even if you don’t get wildly enthusiastic support, what are you about? I’m curious, and would welcome some new info/perspective...if that’s in the offing....?

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 4:28 PM

selector
What is your aim, OM?

Wild discussion is proliferating in a thread only distantly related to the now-beaten-to-death subject of 'who's to blame' for the deaths and horror at Lac Megantic.  Tree wisely suggested that discussion be put in its own thread if, as Euclid intimated, the discussion was about to upshift into a matrix analysis, with weightings, of the 18 individual factors indicated in the TSB report as contributing materially to the occurrence.

I confess my primary concern was to find a lightning rod to get Megantic out of the RBMN Tamaqua thread.  But a good discussion of relative factors that might... might... not rehash the previous Megantic threads might also still be worth following.  

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 4:32 PM

Flintlock76
By the way, has ANYONE found out the cause of the RBMN derailment? 

Now after all the Megantic discussions in the RBMN thread, you introduce RBMN in this one?  Why?  There's a thread for that question already -- although you need to wade through glue to get to the RBMN content such as it is.

 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 4:57 PM

Overmod
although you need to wade through glue to get to the RBMN content

Hence my asking bro, the RBMN thread's a derailment all it's own!

At least it wasn't 425 that went on the ground.

But I will ask, on the original thread just the same.

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Posted by zugmann on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 7:40 PM

Flintlock76
By the way, has ANYONE found out the cause of the RBMN derailment?  It seems to have been lost in the fog if anyone has.

I saw some photos and have my guesses - but not seeing the whole picutre, it'd just be wild speculation. 

 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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