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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, April 7, 2020 12:20 PM

Randy Stahl

I take a biologic alpha TnA inhibitor, my immune response may be different than some. Who knows ,right?

The bigger issue is that I have an MP15AC that pops its low water button and shuts down but only during the last move of the day. You can pound on the engine all day and its fine, at the end of the day it shuts down. It does restart and runs fine though...

 

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Posted by Euclid on Tuesday, April 7, 2020 12:37 PM

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VIRUS LIVING VERSUS NON-LIVING

What I notice about life is that it always drives to procreate.  It seems that with animals, their only purpose is to procreate and so they live a hard life only to do that one ultimate objective. 

Viruses also procreate as though that is actually an objective.  Animals are alive, so we can see their drive to procreate as being an intention rather than just a random act like a rock falling off a cliff.  So this raises the question of whether viruses too have an intention to procreate.  If they have that intention, they are not merely "poisonous dust" as some say.  Also, if viruses have an intention to spread, it raises to a higher level, the question of how we fight them, compared to if they are just inanimate particles without intent.

I notice that the scientific view of this tends to be a solid, settled conclusion that viruses are non-living, whereas others may consider the question to be unanswered.  Here is an excellent article on this basic question:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-viruses-alive-2004/ 

 

 
COSMOS

The biological age, the age of life in the cosmos, is where NASA focuses much of its efforts for finding life elsewhere. From the story of life here, we know that it was very simple for most of the 3.5 billion years that it existed: one-celled organisms dominated for almost 3 billion years. According to the theory of evolution, there is no directive for life to become complex with time. It can, but it could just be bacteria all the way. Complex organisms may form as they did here, but they require a set of unusual conditions, from planetary stability (orbital, weather, etc.) to proper atmospheric composition — not so easy to find around.

 

 

That life here evolved to generate a species with cognitive awareness is almost surprising. But, hey, here we are! The cognitive age may have started elsewhere in the galaxy or in other galaxies, but in our planet it is quite recent — only a few hundred thousand years old. Maybe because I've been re-watching Star Wars with my kids recently, it's hard to imagine that we are it when it comes to life and, more to the point, intelligent life. On the other hand, as one starts to look at all the necessary steps to go from non-life to cognition, it's also hard to imagine that intelligent life is widespred.

 

 

 

I know what you mean.  When looking out into space and knowing that it has to be infinite, it is impossible to grasp.  How can something go on forever? And if it does not go on forever; how can it stop with nothing beyond?  If this is something else beyond, that either has to go on forever or stop.  But it it stops, there has to be someting beyond that, and that has to go on forever, or stop and be replaced by something else. This is the problem with infinity of space and time.  They defy comprehension, but yet they have to be.  They intrude and will not be ignored.   

Going deeply into that is enough to make a person tip over.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, April 7, 2020 12:42 PM

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How can something go on forever, and how can it stop with nothing beyond?

Time and space are infinite.  The only reason there aren't more celestial bodies in view is because a) they aren't bright enough or b) the light hasn't gotten here yet, even though that supernova occured billions of years ago.

You're right.  Most people can't wrap their heads around it.

As for a virus - it may not meet the requirements for being alive, but it is certainly able to meet the requirement for preservation of the "species."

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, April 7, 2020 12:42 PM

[quote user="mudchicken"]

Randy Stahl

I take a biologic alpha TnA inhibitor, my immune response may be different than some. Who knows ,right?

The bigger issue is that I have an MP15AC that pops its low water button and shuts down but only during the last move of the day. You can pound on the engine all day and its fine, at the end of the day it shuts down. It does restart and runs fine though...

Randy

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 [/quote] 

Randy: I think your problem is:  You do not need a mechanic..

                                                 You need a psychiatrist!Whistling

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, April 7, 2020 12:47 PM

Randy Stahl
The bigger issue is that I have an MP15AC that pops its low water button and shuts down but only during the last move of the day. You can pound on the engine all day and its fine, at the end of the day it shuts down. It does restart and runs fine though...

Looking for that early "quit..."

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, April 7, 2020 2:28 PM

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My health have not a cold in 6 years which is a bad thing at late 40s which means that the next cold will be a doisy...Aortic Anerosim,HBP& 711 food and cheap beer at the train station on the run. 

 

                  Dave: Better check that diet[just a'tip]'....I understand, that one of the' things' that the COVID19 virus  feeds on in the human body, is high blood sugar. (?)  Smile, Wink & Grin Wobble water, and bread: feedin' the beast!  Sigh

 

 


 

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Posted by Euclid on Tuesday, April 7, 2020 8:52 PM

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, April 7, 2020 10:31 PM

mudchicken
Randy Stahl

I take a biologic alpha TnA inhibitor, my immune response may be different than some. Who knows ,right?

The bigger issue is that I have an MP15AC that pops its low water button and shuts down but only during the last move of the day. You can pound on the engine all day and its fine, at the end of the day it shuts down. It does restart and runs fine though...

Randy

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   Randy:  I think the answer to your problem is: 

             You need a psychiatrist, not a mechanic for that MP15AC...

 

 


 

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