Trains.com

News Wire: Medical condition often forces Hunter Harrison to work from home

8942 views
58 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    January 2002
  • From: Canterlot
  • 9,575 posts
Posted by zugmann on Saturday, May 20, 2017 3:35 PM

Norm48327
You have revealed yourself to the political position you stand for. You have declared all bets off at this point.

It's really no secret what your position is either, Norm.  Nor mine.  Most of us are pretty transparent on here. 

 

But what kind of "ilk" is Schlimm, exactly?  And when was the railfan club meeting that decided he isn't welcome?  I didn't get a ballot.

 

 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

The opinions expressed here represent my own and not those of my employer, any other railroad, company, or person.t fun any

  • Member since
    August 2010
  • From: Henrico, VA
  • 8,955 posts
Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, May 20, 2017 4:06 PM

All should be welcome here who comport themselves as ladies and gentlemen.

Remember the wise words of General Robert E. Lee when he was president of Washington College.  When he was asked by a new student for a copy of the school's rule book the general replied "We have only one rule here, that all our students act like gentlemen."

  • Member since
    January 2002
  • From: Canterlot
  • 9,575 posts
Posted by zugmann on Saturday, May 20, 2017 4:09 PM

Firelock76
All should be welcome here who comport themselves as ladies and gentlemen.

 

Can I stay anyhow?

 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

The opinions expressed here represent my own and not those of my employer, any other railroad, company, or person.t fun any

  • Member since
    August 2010
  • From: Henrico, VA
  • 8,955 posts
Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, May 20, 2017 4:20 PM

zugmann
 
Firelock76
All should be welcome here who comport themselves as ladies and gentlemen.

 

 

Can I stay anyhow?

 

 

Certainly!  "Bronys" can stay as long as they like!

  • Member since
    June 2009
  • From: Dallas, TX
  • 6,952 posts
Posted by CMStPnP on Saturday, May 20, 2017 4:29 PM

Geez, some of you guys are way out of date workplace wise.    Working from home and flex hours has become common place now for office workers.    I have been working from home since I sold the restaurant.    Employers love it, I love it because it feels like I am already semi-retired.     I have specialized home office equipment that allows me to communicate over the internet but keep everything I do secure and away from prying eyes.   Use Skype for business meetings along with Windows Messenger.    Both allow remote control of my PC for technical support or for someone to mentor me in a specific computer area.   I can also remotely control computers anywhere in the United States (Windows provides that ability now via REMOTE DESKTOP login).

I have worked in Dallas since the late 1990s.   For IBM for a Consulting Practice heaadquartered in Newport, RI,  Local firm in Frisco TX,  For an IBM Business Partner in Florida, etc.    Been offered jobs for employers in the Twin Cities, Silicon Valley, Los Angeles, Denver, etc..........each of those employers wanted me to work at home in Dallas, TX.    It's been great.    I am not completely isolated as most of those firms will allow me to fly to the home office or to meet up with the team I am assigned to on a once a month frequency if I want to do that or as little as once a quarter to six month frequency.

You no longer have to be in the office to be supervised.    Technology does it and supervision can also be measured by work output as well.    

Night School at the local College has changed as well.   Even though I will be on the road the next two weeks I will still be able to attend my Java Programming Language Classes on Wednesday nights back here in Dallas due to skype and being able to call in for audio.      It's called distance learning.   So while I am working my marketing value for future firms is increasing as I increase my family of programming languages that I am good at.

  • Member since
    January 2002
  • From: Canterlot
  • 9,575 posts
Posted by zugmann on Saturday, May 20, 2017 4:39 PM

I don't think its a question of him working from home - but of how healthy he is.  What happens if the vote is for giving EHH the $84 million and he kicks the bucket a few days later?  Does he have his grand plan written down and buried in a chest somewhere with a map given to the company upon his death?

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

The opinions expressed here represent my own and not those of my employer, any other railroad, company, or person.t fun any

  • Member since
    August 2010
  • From: Henrico, VA
  • 8,955 posts
Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, May 20, 2017 4:45 PM

Working from home isn't universally liked.  The wife's employer has tried it and has them do it every so often and she and none of her co-workers care for it at all, and for the same reasons, they miss the "give-and-take" and the team work of the office, and all say there's too many distractions at home to make it worthwhile, and does cause at home disruptions in it's own right. 

How good working from home is depends on your situation, it's not a "one size fits all" thing, by any means.

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • 9,610 posts
Posted by schlimm on Saturday, May 20, 2017 5:12 PM

Norm48327

 

 
schlimm

 

 
Ulrich

Norm,

I go by what I read in the quarterly and annual reports, and I do read them. I really do not care about the value of the stock over the short term (more interested in dividend yield) Unless the reports are a complete fabrication and there's massive fraud going on, both carriers appear to be doing alright or maybe even a little better than alright. Yes, I know, the reports don't tell you everything, but they are a pretty good indicator of the health of the business, especially if one goes through the financials. 

About morale being low.. morale is almost always low no matter who the employer happens to be. Sometimes its because the employer is doing a poor job, and sometimes its because people have made up their minds to be unhappy and disatisfied. ..usually its a combination of the two.

 

 

 

A few observations:

1. The hate-filled ageism seen here by the 65+ crowd is amazing, even more so since many of them voted for the current (as of 5/19/2017) occupant of the WH.

2. The views of current and terminated CN and CP employees might just be a wee bit biased, though understandably so.

I also have no skin in the game.  Let's see where poorly performing CSX is in two years.

 

schlimm,

 based on previous agreements I believe you are in violation of them therefore I am terminating the agreement we reached a few years ago. Your intent is nothing more than an intent to stir the pot and create dissention among the troups.  All bets and agreements between  us are off. You have revealed yourself to the political position you stand for. You have declared all bets off at this point.

Take your degree which I have doubt of and your sense of self-worthiness and stick it where the sun don't shine. You have been feeding us a line of bull for years. I speak for myself but think others think the same of your attitude toward those who don't have the level of education you think necessary to form an opinion. You , in your manner, have corrupted this forum in the name of political correctness. You occasionally slide something in to back up your agenda.

Show us the proof or shut up. We are tired of listenning to your political agenda. IOW, GFYS! Your ilk is not welcomed by those of who are railfans.

I will not be awaiting a reply but wil be waiting to hear what others think.

This forum needs an "ignore" button.

 

Gee, I'm stunned at your reactions.  But not surpised.  Your insults and rants don't bother me in the least.

C&NW, CA&E, MILW, CGW and IC fan

  • Member since
    September 2013
  • 6,199 posts
Posted by Miningman on Saturday, May 20, 2017 5:49 PM

Firelock76- I see the City of New Orleans removed the statue of Robert E. Lee, the 4th Confederate statue to be taken down in the city. The workers wore masks to hide their faces to avoid retribution. Times they are a changin'.

I rather enjoy this little civil war going on between Schlimm and Norm, it's quite informative. Took me a few minutes to fiqure out IOW GFYS and now I can't wait to find an appropriate place to use it some day. 

  • Member since
    August 2010
  • From: Henrico, VA
  • 8,955 posts
Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, May 20, 2017 6:28 PM

Oh yeah Miningman, I saw it in the local paper this morning, the removal of the Lee statue.  I didn't have a problem with them removing a late 19th Century white supremacist monument but the removal of the Confederate generals statues strikes me as positively Orwellian.

At the risk of getting political, it's my opinion the administration of Mayor Ray Nagin (you'll have to look him up, I'll say no more) did a lot more damage to New Orleans and it's people than the Confederacy ever did.

I'll tell you though, if they ever try to remove the Lee statue from Monument Avenue here in Richmond this is one Yankee who'll be standing shoulder to shoulder with the Confederate re-enactors protesting same.  However, there's absolutely no talk of doing so.

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • 4,190 posts
Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, May 20, 2017 6:54 PM

Firelock76

Mayor Ray Nagin (you'll have to look him up, I'll say no more) 

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • 4,190 posts
Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, May 20, 2017 7:05 PM

The Journal of Commerce, May 18, 1998

CN Executive Recovering From Heart Bypass Surgery

E. Hunter Harrison, recently named as chief operating officer of Canadian National Railways, is recovering from heart bypass surgery that was performed last week at a Chicago area hospital.

Mr. Harrison, 53, is expected to return to work at the Montreal-based railroad in a few weeks, according to a statement released by the railroad. He became the second in command at CN after the Canadian carrier announced a merger earlier this year with Illinois Central Railroad, which was headed at the time by Mr. Harrison with the twin titles of president and chief executive.

The two companies are preparing a merger application for the Surface Transportation Board’s review. If approved, the $2.4 billion deal would create a “Y” shaped transcontinental railroad that spans North America in Canada and joins the IC’s north-south rail routes at Chicago.

Mr. Harrison moved to the newly created chief operating post less than two months ago. He was replaced at IC by John McPherson.

The cardiac surgery was performed last week at a Chicago-area hospital, which was not identified, after Mr. Harrison reportedly suffered chest pains while at work.

In a statement, CN said Mr. Harrison’s surgery was performed as a preventive measure and that he did not suffer a heart attack.

Mr. Harrison’s role at CN capitalized on his background as a well-regarded rail operating official whose career began with the former St. Louis-San Francisco Railway nearly 35 years ago.

When that railroad, commonly called the Frisco, was acquired by Burlington Northern Inc. in 1980, Mr. Harrison served in several operating positions before joining IC to succeed Edward Moyers in 1992. After Mr. Moyers retired from IC, he later took over as president of Southern Pacific Transportation Co.

During his tenure at IC, Mr. Harrison continued to lower that railroad’s operating ratio, which measures expense divided by revenue. The operating ratio is the industry’s standard measure of efficiency.

IC’s operating ratio has dipped as low as 62 percent, resulting in an operating margin of 38 percent. Other major railroads have average operating margins of approximately 25 percent.

RME
  • Member since
    March 2016
  • 2,073 posts
Posted by RME on Saturday, May 20, 2017 8:39 PM

Firelock76
Mayor Ray Nagin (you'll have to look him up,

Just put 32751-034 in the search string. 

(I confess I am waiting with some expectant glee to learn what Hillary Clinton's corresponding numerical reference will be.)

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • 9,610 posts
Posted by schlimm on Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:04 PM

Miningman
I rather enjoy this little civil war going on between Schlimm and Norm, it's quite informative. Took me a few minutes to fiqure out IOW GFYS and now I can't wait to find an appropriate place to use it some day. 

Then it is a "war" of one.  I have no idea of what norm is talking about.

C&NW, CA&E, MILW, CGW and IC fan

  • Member since
    March 2002
  • 9,265 posts
Posted by edblysard on Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:14 PM

zugmann

 

 
Firelock76
All should be welcome here who comport themselves as ladies and gentlemen.

 

 

Can I stay anyhow?

 

 

Wait, wait...and which one are you not?Whistling

23 17 46 11

  • Member since
    July 2010
  • From: Louisiana
  • 2,310 posts
Posted by Paul of Covington on Sunday, May 21, 2017 4:33 AM

Miningman
I rather enjoy this little civil war going on between Schlimm and Norm, it's quite informative. Took me a few minutes to fiqure out IOW GFYS and now I can't wait to find an appropriate place to use it some day.

   Yeah, I kinda enjoy watching the feuds that develop here, too.   For the last couple of decades I've been thinking about how and why civility has declined the way it has.   There seem to be many factors that contribute to it, such as the end of the cold war, our educational system, greed, but I've decided that the main factor is isolation.   When I was a kid, everyone went downtown for shopping, entertainment, socializing and many other things.   A lot of families (like mine) did not have cars, so we took public transit.   We saw well-dressed rich people, working poor and beggars, so we got an idea what the world was like.   As more people had cars and moved out to the suburbs where they lived and shopped alongside people like themselves, they no longer thought about anybody who lived different lives.   Kids grew up playing with kids like themselves.   Televison and air conditioning further isolated their lives.   Then the internet came along.   Now we have "work-at-home" to further isolate us.  

   Sorry about rambling on.   I tried to keep it short.

_____________ 

  "A stranger's just a friend you ain't met yet." --- Dave Gardner

  • Member since
    July 2010
  • From: Louisiana
  • 2,310 posts
Posted by Paul of Covington on Sunday, May 21, 2017 4:52 AM

Firelock76
Oh yeah Miningman, I saw it in the local paper this morning, the removal of the Lee statue. I didn't have a problem with them removing a late 19th Century white supremacist monument but the removal of the Confederate generals statues strikes me as positively Orwellian.

   It's been bothering me that the media keep referring to the four Civil War monuments.   The "Liberty Place" monument is for a race war that took place almost a decade after the war.   I remember seeing it at the foot of Canal Street when I was a kid and didn't know or care what it was.   Many years later I read about it and was disgusted.  I think it should have been crushed and used as RR ballast (keeping this train related).   The others I wasn't in favor of removing, but I can see that they would be offensive to some.   If anything, I could see keeping P. G. T. Beauregard since he was a local, and he did a lot for the city as a businessman and engineer after the war.

_____________ 

  "A stranger's just a friend you ain't met yet." --- Dave Gardner

  • Member since
    February 2006
  • 344 posts
Posted by chicagorails on Sunday, May 21, 2017 5:55 AM

railroads  are a buisness and good earnings  profits  ect  are  important  in  abuiness!  mr  hunter  was   hired  for  csx  to  be   more  sucessfull moneywise and  he  has  done  this with  ic  cn  cp  so  give  him a chance!   like  we  need  to  give  the  other  president {trump} a  fair  amount  of  time  before judging! both  are  not  there  to  make  friends  but  to get  er  done! no  big  deal  if  he  works  from  home  as  long   as  he  gets  er  done!  hes one  of  the great ceos last  40  years!  relax

RME
  • Member since
    March 2016
  • 2,073 posts
Posted by RME on Sunday, May 21, 2017 7:25 AM

edblysard
Wait, wait...and which one are you not?

Alas! he said he was neither.  But it was a nice try.

  • Member since
    January 2014
  • 8,221 posts
Posted by Euclid on Sunday, May 21, 2017 7:53 AM

Norm48327
 
schlimm

 

 
Ulrich

Norm,

I go by what I read in the quarterly and annual reports, and I do read them. I really do not care about the value of the stock over the short term (more interested in dividend yield) Unless the reports are a complete fabrication and there's massive fraud going on, both carriers appear to be doing alright or maybe even a little better than alright. Yes, I know, the reports don't tell you everything, but they are a pretty good indicator of the health of the business, especially if one goes through the financials. 

About morale being low.. morale is almost always low no matter who the employer happens to be. Sometimes its because the employer is doing a poor job, and sometimes its because people have made up their minds to be unhappy and disatisfied. ..usually its a combination of the two.

 

 

 

A few observations:

1. The hate-filled ageism seen here by the 65+ crowd is amazing, even more so since many of them voted for the current (as of 5/19/2017) occupant of the WH.

2. The views of current and terminated CN and CP employees might just be a wee bit biased, though understandably so.

I also have no skin in the game.  Let's see where poorly performing CSX is in two years.

 

schlimm,

 based on previous agreements I believe you are in violation of them therefore I am terminating the agreement we reached a few years ago. Your intent is nothing more than an intent to stir the pot and create dissention among the troups.  All bets and agreements between  us are off. You have revealed yourself to the political position you stand for. You have declared all bets off at this point.

Take your degree which I have doubt of and your sense of self-worthiness and stick it where the sun don't shine. You have been feeding us a line of bull for years. I speak for myself but think others think the same of your attitude toward those who don't have the level of education you think necessary to form an opinion. You , in your manner, have corrupted this forum in the name of political correctness. You occasionally slide something in to back up your agenda.

Show us the proof or shut up. We are tired of listenning to your political agenda. IOW, GFYS! Your ilk is not welcomed by those of who are railfans.

I will not be awaiting a reply but wil be waiting to hear what others think.

This forum needs an "ignore" button.

 

 

Norm,

 

Your response to Schlimm seems like an overreaction, assuming it is based on what you quoted him saying as being your apparent reason for terminating your agreement with him.  Your statement sounds like something you have been rehearsing for a long time

 

 

Moderator
  • Member since
    April 2013
  • 187 posts
Posted by Steve Sweeney on Sunday, May 21, 2017 8:12 AM

Ladies and Gentlemen:

The Trains forums are for all. Fellow forum posters, Trains editors, and people who are just beginning to explore their interest in railroading through these forums deserve our mutual respect and patience. Kalmbach's corporate policies encourage and require Trains editors to enforce this basic standard as appropriate to the situation.

Please reflect on this before posting further.

Best,

Steve S.

Steve Sweeney
Digital Editor, Hobby 

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: At the Crossroads of the West
  • 11,013 posts
Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, May 21, 2017 8:58 AM

Steve Sweeney

Ladies and Gentlemen:

The Trains forums are for all. Fellow forum posters, Trains editors, and people who are just beginning to explore their interest in railroading through these forums deserve our mutual respect and patience. Kalmbach's corporate policies encourage and require Trains editors to enforce this basic standard as appropriate to the situation.

Please reflect on this before posting further.

Best,

Steve S.

 

Thank you, Steve.

Johnny

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: South Dakota
  • 1,592 posts
Posted by Dakguy201 on Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:11 AM

CMStPnP

I have worked in Dallas since the late 1990s.   For IBM for a Consulting Practice heaadquartered in Newport, RI,  Local firm in Frisco TX,  For an IBM Business Partner in Florida, etc.    Been offered jobs for employers in the Twin Cities, Silicon Valley, Los Angeles, Denver, etc..........each of those employers wanted me to work at home in Dallas, TX.    It's been great.    I am not completely isolated as most of those firms will allow me to fly to the home office or to meet up with the team I am assigned to on a once a month frequency if I want to do that or as little as once a quarter to six month frequency.

You no longer have to be in the office to be supervised.    Technology does it and supervision can also be measured by work output as well.    

I believe IBM announced last week that working from home would no longer be permitted by their employees, and that ALL such arrangements would be ended by moving them into office settings.  Detail reasoning for this change was not presented in the news item.

Of course, that change probably would not be applied to their Business Partners, who I suspect outnumber their own employees.

  • Member since
    January 2014
  • 8,221 posts
Posted by Euclid on Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:02 AM

I have worked out of a home office as an independent contractor simply because I had no need for a commercial office facility.  But in looking for work, I have to fight hard to prevent a perception to a new client that I am "working from home."  What a lot of them have found is that letting employees work from home results in less work being done.  And they don't realize that working at home as a contractor is nothing like working at home as an employee.  The two concepts are apples and oranges. 

  • Member since
    June 2003
  • From: South Central,Ks
  • 7,170 posts
Posted by samfp1943 on Sunday, May 21, 2017 10:30 AM

Steve Sweeney

Ladies and Gentlemen:

The Trains forums are for all. Fellow forum posters, Trains editors, and people who are just beginning to explore their interest in railroading through these forums deserve our mutual respect and patience. Kalmbach's corporate policies encourage and require Trains editors to enforce this basic standard as appropriate to the situation.

Please reflect on this before posting further.

Best,

Steve S.

 

           And from back in the pews:  A chorus of "AMENS!"  Thank You...Steve S.

 

   Maybe, there should be an emoji added?

        Representation of a food fight.. Whistling

                        Or possibly, Pigs, mud wrestling  [Or wrasslin' Mischief  ]

 

 

 


 

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Guelph, Ontario
  • 4,819 posts
Posted by Ulrich on Sunday, May 21, 2017 12:36 PM

Euclid

I have worked out of a home office as an independent contractor simply because I had no need for a commercial office facility.  But in looking for work, I have to fight hard to prevent a perception to a new client that I am "working from home."  What a lot of them have found is that letting employees work from home results in less work being done.  And they don't realize that working at home as a contractor is nothing like working at home as an employee.  The two concepts are apples and oranges. 

 

 

Many people work from home, including the president of the United States. Many lawyers have home based offices.  I really wish I could work from home more. sometimes I do.  

  • Member since
    June 2009
  • From: Dallas, TX
  • 6,952 posts
Posted by CMStPnP on Sunday, May 21, 2017 3:00 PM

Dakguy201
I believe IBM announced last week that working from home would no longer be permitted by their employees, and that ALL such arrangements would be ended by moving them into office settings.  Detail reasoning for this change was not presented in the news item. Of course, that change probably would not be applied to their Business Partners, who I suspect outnumber their own employees.

I don't think that is for all of IBM, pretty sure it only applies to non-GBS employees.   They don't have the office space or the money to apply it to everyone.    At any rate, IBM has slipped quite a bit the last 15 years with it's demands on employees.   I remember consulting arm the target was 85% utilization rate.........which was tough to meet if you were in an area of new learning.    A lot of my friends jumped ship when they raised it to 90%.......then they raised it 95% which basically told the employees that they are fired once their skill set became out of date and the company would just shop for someone with the new skill set instead of training someone within the company.   IBM GBS is a sweat shop now and mostly made up of Indians and Pakistani's who think that environment is just fine.   No surprise that increasingly IBM relies on the H1B Visa program to find more Indians and Pakistanis.    Curious what they are going to do IF President Trump closes that avenue and I say IF because even though he said he would the Indian firms are really good at lobbying Congress to keep it up and running.

EDS my first employer went down hill as well though 20 years sooner than IBM.   Then EDS sold itself to a overly naive Meg Whitman........who tried to get the elephant to dance as HPE but couldn't and then spun it off into another company and shrunk HPE significantly in the process. 

I have no doubts IBM will come back as it is too large to fail but not with it's current CEO.    Plus they will bring back the work remote policy across the board again.

All these liberated women Marissa Meyer (former Yahoo CEO) types that think they are going to change the IT landscape and never lead by example.   End up driving the company further into the drink and collect a handsome payout despite their poor performance.    The price of PC in the Corporate World.  

  • Member since
    December 2001
  • From: Northern New York
  • 25,021 posts
Posted by tree68 on Sunday, May 21, 2017 5:23 PM

Dakguy201
I believe IBM announced last week that working from home would no longer be permitted by their employees, and that ALL such arrangements would be ended by moving them into office settings.  Detail reasoning for this change was not presented in the news item.

There may be a security angle to that as well.  Securely communicating between the "main base" and innumerable remote users is a challenge - maintaining the equipment and software to do so requires people who are not adding to the bottom line.  If a building/facility has only one 'Net line, it's a lot easier to apply security to it.

LarryWhistling
Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) 
Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you
My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date
Come ride the rails with me!
There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...

  • Member since
    September 2010
  • 2,515 posts
Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Monday, May 22, 2017 4:19 PM

NKP guy
   For that matter, should a man of 70 be President of the United States?  What's with these old guys?      In both cases, does (advanced) age lead to better outcomes for either company or country?  As evidenced by what?

Replay the Paula Poundstone tape about STUDY's SHOW

Join our Community!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

Search the Community

Newsletter Sign-Up

By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy