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Posted by Shadow the Cats owner on Friday, January 6, 2017 2:34 PM

I got the 2 models confused someone in postwar Germany found a demand for one even larger than the Ratte.  Those were the specs for it supposedly with the 50 foot height and armerments listed.  Remember this about Germany they built the Gustav Rail gun that needed a crew of 3500 to set up and fire.  Built and deployed the Karl Mortar a 450mm Mortar the Strumtiger a 380mm Rocket propelled artillery piece and both the ME163 and ME262 during the freaking war.  The Germans were a full technological step ahead of our weapons we just flat out had more men and weapons to go at them with. 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Saturday, January 7, 2017 6:50 AM

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Name one bomb we had that could have penned it.

 
Aphrodite was a bit of a desperation move to stop the V1's and the few that didn't kill or injure their crews did little real damage to the V1 launch sites.  They would have been highly susceptible to flak since radio control was in its very early stages and not very reliable.  Note that it was never attempted on the U-boat pens.
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Posted by RME on Saturday, January 7, 2017 10:05 AM

CSSHEGEWISCH
Aphrodite was a bit of a desperation move to stop the V1's and the few that didn't kill or injure their crews did little real damage to the V1 launch sites.

But that wasn't the question.  It was whether the explosive effect of one of these would take out the cited vehicle ... either the actual vehicle or the hypothetical larger one.  And if there's any question that 10-odd tons of high explosive would work, consider the different forms of configuration of the payload that could have been used.  (Of course, this presumes no cold-solder joints in the boards, and all that, but the bugs certainly seemed to be out of the Castor system by Crossroads.)

While some of the early attempts at control weren't very good, the advent of FM-TV made a great deal of difference.  I had the impression that the mission (to either the sub pens or the 'mystery' V-weapon launch sites) was largely ended by the state of the war by the time that system was in practical operation ... not because the system or the war-weary bombers were incapable at that point.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Saturday, January 7, 2017 11:38 AM

   A Fat Man or a LIttle Boy would stop the tank as well, but you don't need to blow it up into little pieces in order to get the job done. Tank warfare is all about firepower and mobility. All the armor and firepower in the world does nothing if the battle is miles down the road.  The truth is, a lucky hit in the tracks from a 500# bomb would turn the monster into a big ol' stationary pillbox. Send in the Swordfish.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Saturday, January 7, 2017 2:19 PM

Murphy Siding

   A Fat Man or a LIttle Boy would stop the tank as well, but you don't need to blow it up into little pieces in order to get the job done. Tank warfare is all about firepower and mobility. All the armor and firepower in the world does nothing if the battle is miles down the road.  The truth is, a lucky hit in the tracks from a 500# bomb would turn the monster into a big ol' stationary pillbox. Send in the Swordfish.

 

  There is an old saying "... It's the gnats that will 'get you', not the tigers..."      We were always told: "that it was the track that was the weak point on a tank, not many tanks will get anywhere without their treads."    Armour may be a comfort for a tanker, but the guy in the shirt is gonna be the one that can stop them.

 

 


 

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Posted by 7j43k on Saturday, January 7, 2017 3:09 PM

That's why it's generally a good idea to send infantry in with armor.  They're there to protect the armor.  From getting their tracks shot off, for one.  And the armor protects the infantry. 

 

Ed

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