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G&W Buys P&W
Posted by NorthWest on Monday, August 15, 2016 7:13 PM
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Posted by Paul3 on Monday, August 15, 2016 11:16 PM

One PW employee I talked to is very concerned, knowing what G&W has done to the NECR, CSOR, and SLA.

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:40 PM

At some point, our favorite master maniac will surface.

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Posted by Randy Stahl on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 3:48 AM

I'm shocked and speechless, I don't know what to say...

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Posted by LensCapOn on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:21 AM

How long before G&W buys one of the 'Bigs"? CP? CSX? UP (if they keep losing All That Traffic)??

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Posted by kgbw49 on Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:04 PM

You know, if G&W bought Kansas City Southern, they'd still have to bridge a few gaps in the Midwest, but they would have quite the network in the Southeast and Upper Midwest if they could bridge those gaps.

Of course, a G&W bid for KCS would probably stimulate other bids from bigger players. And combining companies is more than just stitching track segments in to a contiguous network.

But we are living in interesting times, so who knows?

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, August 18, 2016 6:57 AM

Judging by the geography, the proposed purchase of P&W by G&W may lead to some antitrust issues.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Friday, August 19, 2016 7:37 PM

Considering how most business aquisitions turn out, there's one of three possibilities.

G&W will try to remake P&W into it's own image and louse it up.

G&W won't know what to do with it now that they've got it, like Best Buy didn't know what to do with Geek Squad when they bought it, I got that from a former Geek Squad employee.  (And the O gauger in me is thinking of Bachmann's aquisition of the Williams line.)

They'll have sense enough to realize you don't mess with success and just leave it alone.

Take your pick.

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Posted by zugmann on Friday, August 19, 2016 8:33 PM

Randy Stahl

I'm shocked and speechless, I don't know what to say...

 

I could say something, but it wouldn't be apprpriate to this forum.

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by cat992c on Monday, August 29, 2016 8:13 PM

And the rich get richer.

 

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Posted by LensCapOn on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:59 AM

Still waiting for G&W to buy G&D.....

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 1:10 PM

LensCapOn

Still waiting for G&W to buy G&D..... 

Too late - the G&D burned some years ago...

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 4:22 PM

[quote user="tree68"]

 

 
LensCapOn

Still waiting for G&W to buy G&D..... 

 

 

Too late - the G&D burned some years ago...

 

[/quote]  SO RIGHT! 

Highlight of many editions of the Model Railroader  were the photo spreads of John Allen's G&D [Gorre& Daphetid) They were always excelent and his diaoramas were a mark for all the rest of of to shoot for!

  As I recall, John Allen passed in about '73, and I think the layout was consumed sometime after his death by a house fire(?).  Kind of a modeler's viking Funeral. Angel   

 

 


 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Tuesday, August 30, 2016 6:44 PM

Makes you wonder sometimes.  The layout didn't want to live without him.

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Posted by STEPHEN C WILLIS on Tuesday, September 6, 2016 9:13 PM

I think it's about time the STB began considering G&W purchases as if it were a Class I. Their holding company method of ownership is just a way around laws others have to consider. Every shortline with a dozen cars per year is a takeover target.

 

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Posted by cat992c on Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:29 PM

If Hunter Harrison wants a company to buy it the G & W  is  it.P & W should not let themselves be bought.Read the piece that this magazine did on them

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:56 PM

cat992c

If Hunter Harrison wants a company to buy it the G & W  is  it.P & W should not let themselves be bought.Read the piece that this magazine did on them

 
If G&W makes an offer that a majority of the PW shareholders accept and the STB approves the sale, then there isn't much that anyone can do to prevent it.
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Posted by samfp1943 on Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:20 PM

STEPHEN C WILLIS

I think it's about time the STB began considering G&W purchases as if it were a Class I. Their holding company method of ownership is just a way around laws others have to consider. Every shortline with a dozen cars per year is a takeover target.

 

 

   Off Topic seems we have strayed(?) Mischief  

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  Oops - SignOops - Sign  It seems that we took that last curve too fastWow

  Just to back track...Yeah  The Gorre & Daphetid RR was a very well constructed and modeled HO Model Layout....It owner was John W. Allen; His layout, and his diorama constructions were well done and showed what could be done to a model in a repersentation of world realism. The were featured in many issues of MODEL RAILROADER Magazine, up until the time of John Allen's death in 1973.

Here is a more complete story of John W. Allen and his Gorre&Daphetid RR: @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorre_%26_Daphetid

and also @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Whitby_Allen

A Google search will find much more and even some photos and You Tube videos of John's layouts.

Not to mention back issues of Model Railroader; [Cover photos, and stories] pre-1973 would be a real treasure trove of John Allen's  work. 

 

 

 


 

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