ricktrains4824 While we do know that the Amtrak train struck a company vehicle, what we do not know is which one was where it should not have been... Either the BNSF welder crew was not supposed to be that close, or the DS had the Amtrak train in the wrong spot.
While we do know that the Amtrak train struck a company vehicle, what we do not know is which one was where it should not have been... Either the BNSF welder crew was not supposed to be that close, or the DS had the Amtrak train in the wrong spot.
Or the welder had a Form B/707/whatever the BNSF calls an employee in charge work authority and the Amtrak crew blew it.
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On the UP, MOW/Signal can get a "Foul Time Permit" that just covers the control point within CTC or at a manual interlocking. Does BNSF use them too?
Jeff
jeffhergert On the UP, MOW/Signal can get a "Foul Time Permit" that just covers the control point within CTC or at a manual interlocking. Does BNSF use them too? Jeff
In old Santa Fe parlance, you'd be asking for time in the "detector section" in the CTC plant. It's been a long time since I've heard that request on BNSF in the places I've been.
n012944 ricktrains4824 While we do know that the Amtrak train struck a company vehicle, what we do not know is which one was where it should not have been... Either the BNSF welder crew was not supposed to be that close, or the DS had the Amtrak train in the wrong spot. Or the welder had a Form B/707/whatever the BNSF calls an employee in charge work authority and the Amtrak crew blew it.
Within a CTC interlocking, while possible that the Amtrak just blew through the work zone without permission of worker in charge, it seems, at least to me, that the DS in charge of said interlocking would have to have had the Amtrak in the wrong spot/on the wrong line. With Amtrak being priority on all lines, would not the DS in charge of the interlocking not try to mov the Amtrak to an adjacent line to get around the work zone with as little delay as possible?
Or the DS simply forgot the welder crew had that portion blocked.... If they were given permission.
And in relation to the humor of the truck being made of a certain style frame..... My apologies. Sometimes humor is hard to pick up on in writing.....
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ricktrains4824 n012944 ricktrains4824 While we do know that the Amtrak train struck a company vehicle, what we do not know is which one was where it should not have been... Either the BNSF welder crew was not supposed to be that close, or the DS had the Amtrak train in the wrong spot. Or the welder had a Form B/707/whatever the BNSF calls an employee in charge work authority and the Amtrak crew blew it. Within a CTC interlocking, while possible that the Amtrak just blew through the work zone without permission of worker in charge, it seems, at least to me, that the DS in charge of said interlocking would have to have had the Amtrak in the wrong spot/on the wrong line. With Amtrak being priority on all lines, would not the DS in charge of the interlocking not try to mov the Amtrak to an adjacent line to get around the work zone with as little delay as possible? Or the DS simply forgot the welder crew had that portion blocked.... If they were given permission. And in relation to the humor of the truck being made of a certain style frame..... My apologies. Sometimes humor is hard to pick up on in writing.....
On my carrier, it is cusomary for Work Authorities to be in effect on all tracks within the working limits. Trains must STOP at the entering limit IF they have not received permission to pass through the limits from the employee in charge of the work area.
Dispatchers line routes through the work area, unless the employee in charge specifically asks for track blocking on specific track(s). It doesn't matter if the work area is within interlocking limits or not. When the employee in charge asks for track blocking, the dispatcher initiates the appropriate blocking software in the CADS system and he will not be able to line signals to the track(s) that have been blocked until software is initiated to release the blocking. Any Dispatcher that does not apply appropriate blocking in such instances is a fool and deserves to be a former dispatcher.
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This may seem common sense obvious, but unless they were working on the track, why park the truck so near the track? That would avoid all the paperwork.
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schlimmThis may seem common sense obvious, but unless they were working on the track, why park the truck so near the track?
This may well be the $64,000 question....
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Euclid Do we know that the truck was parked when it was hit? Is it possible that the truck was being maneuvered in the process of parking or leaving, and accidentally moved into the foul zone just as the train showed up?
We don't know and it is doubtful that we ever will since there were no fatalities and thus no NTSB or FRA investigation that will be made public.
BaltACD Euclid Do we know that the truck was parked when it was hit? Is it possible that the truck was being maneuvered in the process of parking or leaving, and accidentally moved into the foul zone just as the train showed up? We don't know and it is doubtful that we ever will since there were no fatalities and thus no NTSB or FRA investigation that will be made public.
I can see what you mean. About the only way that any word could get out would be by word of mouth by people close to the accident. I was just thinking that the easy first impression was that the truck was parked too close to the track. But it may not have happened that way at all.
I saw a picture somewhere that showed the truck on two of the tracks, with debris over all three. I can't find it in any of my usual places now. Of course, that was the aftermath--I don't have any idea where the truck was before the collision, nor do I know which track the train was using.
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