Ok, I will. I have many things going thru my mind, not the least of which is that this used to be the male species doing this type of tresspass. As a mother of a day or two, this just makes me heartsick when I see any of our young people doing this type of almost sure death stunts.
We are a society of looking for a bigger high, a bigger stunt that will thrill and shock and no limits on what we can find on video somewhere to try next. And to paraphrase my favorite poster Kyle - let's hit them in the head with a plow and teach them not to do that. What can I possibly say? That is an incredibly sad statement to go along with an incredibly sad situation.
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Most bridges that I've seen have a narrow walkway on one side... maybe that should be mandatory. People might say that a walkway would encourage trespassing, but clearly the lack of a walkway doesn't seem to discourage it.
We can't seem to stop people from trespassing, so perhaps we should at least provide a means of escape. The crews might appreciate a walkway also in the event of an emergency on the bridge.
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Thankfully the train didn't take down the bridge when it derailed. However the fact that it did slightly derail will give the railroad more reason to sue these idiots till their broke and push for maximum jail time. That will send a clear message to people that trespassing is illegal and dangerous. I hope that Operation Lifesaver will use this incident to help educate the public on safety around railroads by using the media.
A piece of chain should be hung from the bottom of locomotives to discourage idiots from laying in between the rail and having a train go over them. I sure one idiot has probably already tried this.
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Was there only an engineer onboard?
“In this case, not only did two trespassers narrowly escape a horrible death, but had the heavy train derailed due to the emergency brake application – which isn’t uncommon – it could have taken down the bridge, possibly killing the engineer as well."
If not, they forgot someone...
http://www.inrd.com/documents/news_releases/2014-07-29_Shuffle_Creek.pdf
From all I read, the train did NOT derail (slightly or not). It was mentioned in a public comment that putting a train into emergency braking COULD derail a train, but nowhere have I seen any mention about this train derailing at all.
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edblysardHow do you “slightly derail” a train? Isn’t that like being “slightly pregnant?”
or slightly dead..
There was apparently no derailment, slight or otherwise.
It seems like Kyle's chain could have hit them on the head, possibly fatally; or discouraged them from taking the one possible action that saved their lives. Maybe we ought to forget about the chain, OK?
Tom
KyleA piece of chain should be hung from the bottom of locomotives to discourage idiots from laying in between the rail and having a train go over them. I sure one idiot has probably already tried this.
Says "Junior Troller" Kyle, who appears obsessed with eliminationist solutions for dealing with folks who offend his sensibilities: trespassers, cars and pedestrians at crossings, idiots, etc.
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henry6Hand cuffs or straight jackets? We've a hard time in this country getting this correct.
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schlimm KyleA piece of chain should be hung from the bottom of locomotives to discourage idiots from laying in between the rail and having a train go over them. I sure one idiot has probably already tried this. Says Troller Kyle, who under various other aliases hops freights, makes threats and has gotten kicked off this forum. If you have doubts, ask Murphy.
Says Troller Kyle, who under various other aliases hops freights, makes threats and has gotten kicked off this forum. If you have doubts, ask Murphy.
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Kyle Thankfully the train didn't take down the bridge when it derailed. However the fact that it did slightly derail will give the railroad more reason to sue these idiots till their broke and push for maximum jail time. That will send a clear message to people that trespassing is illegal and dangerous. I hope that Operation Lifesaver will use this incident to help educate the public on safety around railroads by using the media. A piece of chain should be hung from the bottom of locomotives to discourage idiots from laying in between the rail and having a train go over them. I sure one idiot has probably already tried this.
The Butler Here is a statement released by the Indiana Rail Road (PDF file, 55.03 KB): Shuffle Creek Trestle
Here is a statement released by the
Indiana Rail Road (PDF file, 55.03 KB):
Shuffle Creek Trestle
What were they doing there at 0650 - In the MORNING? Hardly the time for 'normal' youthful indiscretions.
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Semper Vaporo From all I read, the train did NOT derail (slightly or not). It was mentioned in a public comment that putting a train into emergency braking COULD derail a train, but nowhere have I seen any mention about this train derailing at all.
Indianapolis TV reporter says a private investigator was able to identify the women by the plate number of their getaway car. Perhaps it was a car they drove to the bridge, or perhaps they found a good Samaritan.
http://fox59.com/2014/07/29/watch-women-lie-down-on-railroad-tracks-narrowly-escape-death-as-train-bears-down/
BaltACD Deggesty How many of us have read the comments to the news story? One was made out of pure ignorance: "Most engineers end up killing one person a year on the tracks, and many develop PTSD as a result. " A person a year per engineer is a gross overestimation, however, for those operating over the road, the question is when, not if.
Deggesty How many of us have read the comments to the news story? One was made out of pure ignorance: "Most engineers end up killing one person a year on the tracks, and many develop PTSD as a result. "
How many of us have read the comments to the news story? One was made out of pure ignorance: "Most engineers end up killing one person a year on the tracks, and many develop PTSD as a result. "
A person a year per engineer is a gross overestimation, however, for those operating over the road, the question is when, not if.
The commenter said "Most engineers end up killing one person a year on the tracks", they didn't say those killed were all trespassers, they may have been some of the thousands, in the commenter's mind, of pedestrian deaths at malfunctioning grade crossings, who we really couldn't consider trespassers.
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What is the lineage of that line of the Indiana Railroad?
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It is more like having a small accident and having a dent in your car or having a major accident and your car gets totaled. The small derailment is just a matter of rerailing the rolling stock. A large derailment is the train falling off the bridge and possibly bringing the bridge down.
Deggesty Kyle Thankfully the train didn't take down the bridge when it derailed. However the fact that it did slightly derail will give the railroad more reason to sue these idiots till their broke and push for maximum jail time. That will send a clear message to people that trespassing is illegal and dangerous. I hope that Operation Lifesaver will use this incident to help educate the public on safety around railroads by using the media. A piece of chain should be hung from the bottom of locomotives to discourage idiots from laying in between the rail and having a train go over them. I sure one idiot has probably already tried this. Did the train derail? The account reads "Had the train derailed...."
I apologize for my mistake, I thought it said the train had derailed, but luckily it didn't take down the bridge. I was quickly reading.
DELETE YOUR POST!!! I will not tolerate being called names!!! I believe name calling is a childish and uncivilized behavior!!! YOU ARE SPREADING LIES!!!! I have never been kicked off this forum, I have never used another account of this forum, I do not hop freights or make threats! Why are you targeting me with your lies.
Once you delete your post, I will delete this one. Please act civilized and stop in you childish behavior.
I believe this is the second time you he called me names.
A heavy steel chain yes. But I am talking about the lightest metal chain you can buy at a hardware store. It would not kill anyone. Just be slightly painful and on the news it would sound deadly and discourage trespassers.
KyleDELETE YOUR POST!!! I will not tolerate being called names!!! I believe name calling is a childish and uncivilized behavior!!! YOU ARE SPREADING LIES
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Maybe a half mile of penitentiary style fence in both directions would make it too long of a walk to get out onto the bridge?
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NP Eddie What is the lineage of that line of the Indiana Railroad? Ed Burns Retired NP-BN-BNSF
csxnsKyleDELETE YOUR POST!!! I will not tolerate being called names!!! I believe name calling is a childish and uncivilized behavior!!! YOU ARE SPREADING LIESWhy don't you report.
I give people a chance to realize their behavior is wrong and fix it before a moderator has to get involved. Personally I think it is better if both people can solve a problem like this. However if they don't respond within a day, I will report their post.
Randy Stahl Maybe a half mile of penitentiary style fence in both directions would make it too long of a walk to get out onto the bridge?
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