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CSX derails runaways with locomotives. Why not CATCH cars?

  • Yes, I have visited it two times as a child in the late 50s, and rode Amtrak through it in 1995.

    I remember the huge steam locomotive which was on display there.

    Has it been successfully restored and now operational?

    Can't imagine they ever had a clearance problem. - did two trains ever actually touch?

    In my previous post, I was going to say "except for Horseshoe Curve".

    But, is Horseshoe Curve that much of a grade?

    On descent into Allentown(?) I remember smelling the brakes.

    Thank you,

  • That is great action for Movies.

    Would you sit in a cab of an engine having propaine cars comming at you, and you attempting to match their speed. Then who is going to open and latch the couplers and lean over and connect the brake lines.

    Plus watching speed restrictions on curves and light rails.

  •  Robert Gift Denver wrote:

    Yes, I have visited it two times as a child in the late 50s, and rode Amtrak through it in 1995.

    I remember the huge steam locomotive which was on display there.

    Has it been successfully restored and now operational?

    Can't imagine they ever had a clearance problem. - did two trains ever actually touch?

    In my previous post, I was going to say "except for Horseshoe Curve".

    But, is Horseshoe Curve that much of a grade?

    On descent into Allentown(?) I remember smelling the brakes.

    Thank you,

    K4s #1361 is under restoration by the Altoona Railroader's Memorial Museum. The work is being done at Steamtown NHS in Scranton by a contractor working for the Altoona museum.

    It would be more of a sideswipe. The degree of curvature is 9 degrees 15 minutes, with a center angle of 220 degrees (more than a half circle).

    The grade is around 1.28% at the curve itself.

    You'd be decending into Altoona if you were headed east. Allentown is much farther east, almost to New Jersey.

    Smile, it makes people wonder what you're up to. Chief of Sanitation; Clowntown
  •  TomDiehl wrote:
    K4s #1361 is under restoration by the Altoona Railroader's Memorial Museum. The work is being done at Steamtown NHS in Scranton by a contractor working for the Altoona museum.

    It would be more of a sideswipe. The degree of curvature is 9 degrees 15 minutes, with a center angle of 220 degrees (more than a half circle).

    The grade is around 1.28% at the curve itself.

    You'd be decending into Altoona if you were headed east. Allentown is much farther east, almost to New Jersey.

    Thank you, Tom.

    I couldn't think of Altoona.

    That's not a bad grade, is it?

    So glad they are restoring that locomotive.(In 1995, as we rode by, I was shocked to see it missing.  Do I recall it was replaced with an electric locomotive?) 

    Recently read that the D&RGW had 2-8-8-2 locomotives built in 1943 "dismantled" in 1947.

    So sad they scrapped them.   After all the cost of destroying it, was it really worth that much in scrap metal?  Too bad they didn't keep one. 

  •  spikejones52002 wrote:
    ...Would you sit in a cab of an engine having propaine cars comming at you, and you attempting to match their speed.

    Well, when you put it that way, I wouldn't want to become a cinder.

    But, if it was not much of a grade, not much speed, and there was room and no problem with sharp curves [all of which I do not know] I would think it worth the attempt. 

     spikejones52002 wrote:
    Then who is going to open and latch the couplers and lean over and connect the brake lines.

    Plus watching speed restrictions on curves and light rails.

    If the cars coupled to the engine or not, could the engine not bring them to a stop?

    If engine coupler were open and car couplers closed, would they not still couple?  Or must you have both open?

    Thanks,

  •  Robert Gift Denver wrote:

     spikejones52002 wrote:
    ...Would you sit in a cab of an engine having propaine cars comming at you, and you attempting to match their speed.

    Well, when you put it that way, I wouldn't want to become a cinder.

    But, if it was not much of a grade, not much speed, and there was room and no problem with sharp curves [all of which I do not know] I would think it worth the attempt. 

     spikejones52002 wrote:
    Then who is going to open and latch the couplers and lean over and connect the brake lines.

    Plus watching speed restrictions on curves and light rails.

    If the cars coupled to the engine or not, could the engine not bring them to a stop?

    If engine coupler were open and car couplers closed, would they not still couple?  Or must you have both open?

    Thanks,

    You cannot couple with both knuckles open.

    Mechanical Department  "No no that's fine shove that 20 pound set all around the yard... those shoes aren't hell and a half to change..."

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  •  coborn35 wrote:
    You cannot couple with both knuckles open.
    WHAT!   I thought both open was best, but one open and one closed was also OK if they were adequately aligned.