The Grand Trunk Western logo, name, and reporting marks were still being reapplied to locomotives and cars after 1992.
The buildings and signs around railyards started to become labled CN after 1992.
It is not totally independant, but it has not become a true fallen flag like the Central Vermont.
For business purposes the CV logo and reporting marks were still being repainted even after the CV tracks were sold by the CN.
Andrew
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i belive KCS will probaly be absorbed either buy UP NS BNSF or CN
mainly beacuse NS & BNSF run a lot of IM trains across there lines from the east coast NS will take
the train to meridian ms then KCS will take it to ft worth tx where BNSF will take it to the west coast
but UP shares some track with them . CN might try to get them so they can run the south even more becuase a lot of KCS trackage is ex ICG like from bossier city LA to birmingham ALA and Kansas cit mo to spring field ill ex GWWR previous ICG on a diffrent note i think KCS ICG & ICE all should be 1 line the chicago new orleans & western CNO&W
trainboyH16-44 wrote:Well, a few there have already fallen. SOO is now CP, they were officially merged a little while ago, I think. CP always had a major holding. GTW has been CN for a looong time now.. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't KCS do something with TFM to make it not exist anymore?
kinda like back in 86 when SP & SF were gonna merge Southern Pacific Santa Fe
was changed to SPSF Shoulnt Paint So Fast
Kansas City Southern would be the one to fall. If there were a megamerger of Class Is, consider that most have positioned their company names to be "generic" like Canadian National becoming CN, Burlington Northern Santa Fe becoming BNSF, and CSX being, well CSX. Union Pacific is a name with enough history that it has been able to survive all mergers/combinations. The loss of "Canadian" Pacific would probably have political ramifications in Canada. Norfolk Southern could be a name that falls in a merger, but KCS is probably the next to go.
I really don't think you'll see any of the major carriers going off into the sunset. They are currently as big as the American economy can handle, not to mention the STB (read Congress, the White House, and a slew of business groups, ie Chemical shippers and such).
So the question should have read which of the smaller roads are going to be merged into a class I? Now when I say that, I am refering to roads such as Washington Industries' Montana Rail Link (MRL)and Iowa, Chicago, and Eastern (IC&E). What's to keep them from absorbing a bunch of smaller roads (other then BNSF and UP joining together to stop it!) that would connect MRL and IC&E? I'm sure there are many other examples out there.
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The KCS is not about to become anyones dance partner. Read the feature article in this October's Trains magazine and you'll get a better appreciation of why that is. As a matter of fact for the forseeable future (20 years or so) there will be no further mergers between any of the Class I roads. They are all in good financial condition and it is inconceivable that any of them might go bankrupt barring a depression of the magnitude that ocurred in the 1930's. With todays ever growing traffic volumes there are just no weak sisters left to be "saved" among the Class I's. Lacking any financial imperative, any merger "of convenience" of two Class I roads would result in a major loss of competetion bordering on a monopoly that will not be allowed by the STB.
While the subject of mergers seems for some to be an interesting topic of speculation, it's a subject that should be shelved since there are none on the radar screen now or in the near future!
Mark