That's a good point there Loathar,sometimes I think America has become a bunch of ''lawsuit happy'' idiots.
I've always wondered why you never hear about someone suing GM or Ford when a drunk driving moron plows into a minivan and kills a whole family?? ...but then you hear about S&W getting sued because some moron shot someone..........it's exactly the same thing.....makes no sense to me. But then again, I'm not a trial lawyer or ''lawsuit happy'' idiot!!
p.s. ...from my cold dead hands
LD357 wrote: I just watched another installment of ''Boneyard'' on the History channel....nothing about trains this time....it was about what happens to all the property and vehicles the Gov. seizes....... They had one segment that bugged me, it was about the destruction of seized firearms, they keep them till the trials are over then tag them and send them to be melted down, what a waste!!! I don't see why they don't sell them like they do the cars and other properties,
I just watched another installment of ''Boneyard'' on the History channel....nothing about trains this time....it was about what happens to all the property and vehicles the Gov. seizes.......
They had one segment that bugged me, it was about the destruction of seized firearms, they keep them till the trials are over then tag them and send them to be melted down, what a waste!!! I don't see why they don't sell them like they do the cars and other properties,
It's a liability issue. If a crime or murder was committed or someone got hurt with those guns, the victims might try and sue the Fed. These days it's ALWAYS someone else's fault. (I think it's a waste too) Remember...The government doesn't really want you to be able to defend yourself.
loathar wrote:The show "Bone yards" is doing a show on scrapping and recycling trains and locomotives Thursday night at 9:00pm EST. on The History Channel.(pass it along...)
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I just watched another installment of ''Boneyard'' on the History channel....nothing about trains this time....it was about what happens to all the property and vehicles the Gov. seizes.......very interesting indeed! some guy paid $176,000.00 for a Shelby Cobra......and you thought model railroading was an expensive hobby!!...thing is, the current value of said car is only $100,000 give or take.....auction fever strikes again!
They had one segment that bugged me, it was about the destruction of seized firearms, they keep them till the trials are over then tag them and send them to be melted down, what a waste!!! I don't see why they don't sell them like they do the cars and other properties, have an auction, winner shows valid ID, they do an instant background check,he\she fills out a 4473, pays the tax and takes home something nice. It's sad to see all that nice hardware turned into rebar and manhole covers.
That show was, for the most part, fairly interesting. Not as good as previous episodes, but it wasn't a total waste of an hour.
I did see several things they got wrong though.....most glaring was their assertion that diesels didn't appear till 1949.....and their repeated reference to locos as ''trains'', the segment about turntables was a bit too general also. But what can you expect from Hollywood writers?
On the History International channel on Directv there's a show called Voyages and they have some really good train episodes. You just have to check and see when the train segments are on, they also have segments about cars and such if you like that sort of thing.
If you have RFDTV.....then Mondays at 6pm and Tuesdays at 2am you can catch Trains and Locomotives, they show a lot of Herron video productions that are 1st. rate and usually very good.
tomikawaTT wrote: I almost choked on my popcorn when the narrator said that a 39 foot length of rail weighs 60#..
I almost choked on my popcorn when the narrator said that a 39 foot length of rail weighs 60#..
I couldn't believe how many pieces of rail that guy had on his fork lift at one time. He had that thing WAY over loaded!
Ver-r-r-y interesting!
Judging by the closeup views of the ends of those rails being loaded for conversion into fence posts, somebody got their money's worth out of them (worn down to half the original head height..) Of course, I almost choked on my popcorn when the narrator said that a 39 foot length of rail weighs 60#..
Who would have guessed that all those old ties were being used to fuel a power plant..
As for the MRL unit that was being totally scrapped; after a headon collision like that, only the rear coupler would have been undamaged - if the loco had been running light! I noticed that the fuel tank was being removed for reuse (and hope it had been properly purged before the torch was applied..)
Ah, the luxury... The Vanderbilts and the Astors would have loved to have had anything like those cars (state of the art climate control, GPS, satellite TV...) As long as there are people willing to put up the cash, old-time craftsmanship will survive and thrive.
Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
eeyore9900 wrote: It was a good show. I cringed at the MRL unit getting bit into, but once finding out it was beyond repair, I didn't feel too terrible. Sheez, I didn't realize those prime movers weighed THAT much! (2 front end loaders)
It was a good show. I cringed at the MRL unit getting bit into, but once finding out it was beyond repair, I didn't feel too terrible. Sheez, I didn't realize those prime movers weighed THAT much! (2 front end loaders)
Excatly what he said. At first I thought it was like what CN did. Destory.....I mean kill......no, no.......o yeah, scrap all the perfectly working WC SD45s.
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tatans wrote:Is the History channel the same as the Discovery channel ????
No. Different channels. I've got Dish Network and History is 120, Discovery is 182. The History Channel web site says it's going to air 3-4 more times this weekend.(Historychannel.com)
loathar wrote:Pretty good show! I like the fact that they concentrated a lot on rebuilding and restoring. It was nice to see the old luxury passenger cars brought back to life.
Did you get a load of the woodwork inside that restored observation coach, particularly the ceiling? They said they run in both Alaska and Canada; what a way to see that kind of scenery.
I too am glad they focused more on the rebirth aspect, as opposed to a lot of morbid autopsy footage.
Nelson
Ex-Southern 385 Being Hoisted
Good show to watch. Mostly upbeat, with a lot of emphasis on recycling and rebuilding. The only real scrapping and demolition segments were about old tracks (rails and ties) and wrecks. There was a nice segment on a "keep 'em running" short line that's still got GP-7's in service, and works hard to maintain them. In a roundhouse with a turntable, no less!
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Bump. It's tonight, and this should be on page 1 for the evening.
Personally, I'm hoping they show some "recycling," like turning engines into slugs, or revenue cars into MOW equipment.
I'm not going to be able to watch it but it really would be a case of morbid interest for me. My grandfather once said that he could never work in the scrap business (especially since he worked for most of his life building trains) and I totally agree.
I understand that not every engine can be saved of course, economics and practical reasons dictate that very simply, but the loss of history to me would be painful. I grew up respecting each engine as an individual machine. So a single preserved Alco RS2 doesn't begin to cover the class of locomotive as a whole, but that kind of history can't be kept, except in the minds of everyone who remembers it.
Cheers!
~METRO
Hello Everyone:
Here are some links to the History Channel that will help locate information for tonight's 9:00 PM EDT episode. Look around the site for other time zones and air dates.
Main History Channel link: http://www.history.com/
Main Boneyard link: http://www.history.com/minisites/boneyard
Boneyard Railroad Episode link: http://www.history.com/minisites/boneyard
Hope this helps everyone!
Pennsy
A Model Railroader's Credo: Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
NS2591 wrote:I belive it would be around 6PM Pacific Standard Time.
I am in Portland, OR and our local listings show it as being aired at 9:00 pm PDT
It also lists Wild West Tech - Train Tech at 8:00 am PDT Saturday the 30th, this might be a good show also, check your local listings to verify what time it will be on in your area.
Doug
May your flanges always stay BETWEEN the rails
I did a report on a History Channel show called "Modern Marvels: Freight Trains" for school.
I got a 101%
SteamFreak wrote: Thanks for the heads-up; it should be really interesting. Do railroads provide locomotive recycling bins?
Thanks for the heads-up; it should be really interesting. Do railroads provide locomotive recycling bins?
Yep! Diesel AND steam!
loathar wrote:The commercial showed a big hydraulic "pincher" cutting a switcher in half.
*cough* Well, I'm going to watch it, but I have a feeling that I won't like what I'll see.
-Brandon
In "The Twilight of Steam Locomotives" Ron Ziel documents the scrapping of a CB&Q 4-8-4 in 1962. It's fascinating, but hard to read as well.